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only nutters were attracted to this work in the 80s and 90s. My point stands. We're kicking out the people that thought differently enough to make the world we
by silverreads 7y ago
only nutters were attracted to this work in the 80s and 90s. My point stands. We're kicking out the people that thought differently enough to make the world we now live in. Honestly I refuse to blame someone for believing propaganda when it was so strongly pressed upon them. Remember, gay content only recently became acceptable to advertisers and corporate america. Anyone with the old anti-gay viewpoints will be purged by them and their cronies to make more money. This is wrong. Only actual misdeeds should be punished. It's ok to have wrong ideas. We all have them.
I'm queer, but have a LOT of empathy for the previous generation and the crap they had to put up with. Can you just imagine trying to say you were a LGTBQ ally in the 1970s when these people were in their formative years??? It was a different time. They are a product of that time. Be thankful.
- turbinerneiter 7y agoIt's not about him no being an ally I'm the 70. It's about him conflating homosexuality with pedophilia _today_. I'm thankful for his work, but today people like him are driving away people from open source. And this is not a Linus Torvalds sometimes uses rude language kind of thing. It's about a person spewing hatred and toxic lies.
- LiNeXT 7y agoWhat relevance does his personal opinion on homosexuality, expressed on his personal blog, have to his participation in an OSI mailing list about open source licensing?
- turbinerneiter 7y agoIt spills over. He is fighting against codes of conducts and diversity because he thinks its about normalizing homosexuality and he thinks that normalizing homosexuality is the first step towards normalizing pedophilia.
- zozbot234 7y agoThis is quite wrong[0]. ESR has credited "normalizing homosexuality" (which as a social movement only began in the late 19th century) with pushing MSM away from predatory sexuality/pederasty (the Graeco-Roman/Mediterranean model, albeit not exclusive to that milieu), and towards egalitarian, affectionate relationships. He pleads with well-meaning, egalitarian gays to remain vigilant against attempts within the LGBT movement to normalize predatory sex (including pederasty) in the future. This is probably feasible, because we managed to do it starting from the late 19th c. in the developed West. [0] http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1063 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1063
- pdonis 7y ago> He is fighting against codes of conducts and diversity because he thinks its about normalizing homosexuality No, he's not. He's fighting against codes of conduct because he sees them as a Leftist attempt to gain control of open source software as an institution and subvert it, in other words, a Leftist power grab. This is not by any means the first such Leftist takeover in history. You can agree or disagree about his reading of what's going on, but either way it has nothing to do with normalizing homosexuality.
- NyxWulf 7y agoWithout sources and specific primary citations, I find it hard not to read this comment as spewing hatred and toxic lies.
- turbinerneiter 7y agoScroll up, there is links. Read his blog. Build your own opinion. Don't trust what I say.
- jshevek 7y agoHe clearly does not think all homosexuals are pedophiles. Since we all know that some homosexuals are pedophiles, what is the point of saying "he thinks homosexuals are pedophiles" without a proportion modifier?
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