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Tech Crunch For The Enterprise: TechCrunchIT

14 points by jasonlbaptiste 18y ago

markbao 18y ago
No Arrington? Sweet. TechCrunch has somewhat gone in a different direction than its original intention with his latest posts that haven't been "insightful" posts. I'd like to see how these two writers fare on the TechCrunchIT. Definitely an interesting topic.
wallflower 18y ago
I subscribe to the print edition of eWeek, and the editors and writers do an excellent job of reporting on the enterprise and IT. A lot of research. I'm skeptical about techcrunch trying to enter eWeek's turf. techcrunch breaks a lot of news (e.g. new startup) but doesn't necessarily write a lot of articles and/or stories.
henning 18y ago
Let the idiocy begin. "On the surface, the event features a continuation of the alliance between Salesforce and Google’s Apps services. Behind the scenes, this is an old fashioned land grab for developers, trying to pry them off Visual Studio and .Net and into the benefits of collaborative on demand services." Salesforce's platform competes with .NET? How? Salesforce provides business applications which interoperates with third-party applications. .NET is a Windows-based development platform -- it includes desktop, graphics, and all manner of things that have absolutely nothing to do with ASP.NET, which is a general platform for making any kind of web application you want. You know, a lot of .NET development consists of assloads of SQL Server stored procedures along with enough C# wrapper code to hook the database up to a web page. The database is fucking God in .NET land -- the interface is an afterthought. Microsoft's tools encourage this by being extremely data/model-oriented. There is no migration path from .NET to Salesforce, except "let's throw away all our code, chuck all our valuable relational data, and instead use a precanned web-based suite with an API we can develop against in ways preapproved by a for-profit enterprise who now has us by the balls." Note that I have not even bothered to dignify the retarded utterance that Salesforce is somehow comparable to Visual Studio, a desktop IDE, with a response. If instead Gillmor meant to compare Salesforce to all of Microsoft's "Live" services that no one really cares about or uses (awful design, awful marketing, awful products), he should get his product families right.
- smhinsey 18y ago
  I am no fan of his, but I don't think that his statement is too off-base if you look at it from Microsoft's perspective. They see a non-.NET platform trying to poach users from them. However, I'm not sure at all that that's the right view, and in fact I suspect you have it pretty much nailed.
webwright 18y ago
Gah-- Steve Gillmor? That guy is largely unintelligible. Every time he posts on TechCrunch, the comments are full of people who haven't the slightest clue what he's saying. Joel Spolsky is a huge fan of Gillmor's communication skills: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/12/23.html http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/12/23.html

No Arrington? Sweet. TechCrunch has somewhat gone in a different direction than its original intention with his latest posts that haven't been "insightful" posts. I'd like to see how these two writers fare on the TechCrunchIT. Definitely an interesting topic.

wallflower 18y ago

I subscribe to the print edition of eWeek, and the editors and writers do an excellent job of reporting on the enterprise and IT. A lot of research. I'm skeptical about techcrunch trying to enter eWeek's turf. techcrunch breaks a lot of news (e.g. new startup) but doesn't necessarily write a lot of articles and/or stories.

henning 18y ago

Let the idiocy begin. "On the surface, the event features a continuation of the alliance between Salesforce and Google’s Apps services. Behind the scenes, this is an old fashioned land grab for developers, trying to pry them off Visual Studio and .Net and into the benefits of collaborative on demand services." Salesforce's platform competes with .NET? How? Salesforce provides business applications which interoperates with third-party applications. .NET is a Windows-based development platform -- it includes desktop, graphics, and all manner of things that have absolutely nothing to do with ASP.NET, which is a general platform for making any kind of web application you want. You know, a lot of .NET development consists of assloads of SQL Server stored procedures along with enough C# wrapper code to hook the database up to a web page. The database is fucking God in .NET land -- the interface is an afterthought. Microsoft's tools encourage this by being extremely data/model-oriented. There is no migration path from .NET to Salesforce, except "let's throw away all our code, chuck all our valuable relational data, and instead use a precanned web-based suite with an API we can develop against in ways preapproved by a for-profit enterprise who now has us by the balls." Note that I have not even bothered to dignify the retarded utterance that Salesforce is somehow comparable to Visual Studio, a desktop IDE, with a response. If instead Gillmor meant to compare Salesforce to all of Microsoft's "Live" services that no one really cares about or uses (awful design, awful marketing, awful products), he should get his product families right.

smhinsey 18y ago
I am no fan of his, but I don't think that his statement is too off-base if you look at it from Microsoft's perspective. They see a non-.NET platform trying to poach users from them. However, I'm not sure at all that that's the right view, and in fact I suspect you have it pretty much nailed.

webwright 18y ago

Gah-- Steve Gillmor? That guy is largely unintelligible. Every time he posts on TechCrunch, the comments are full of people who haven't the slightest clue what he's saying. Joel Spolsky is a huge fan of Gillmor's communication skills: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/12/23.html http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/12/23.html