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The costs aren't high because it's private - they're high because the heavily regulated government system has broken the market. In fact the only completely pr

The costs aren't high because it's private - they're high because the heavily regulated government system has broken the market. In fact the only completely private parts have reasonable prices.

cma 7y ago
What country has a working completely private healthcare system?
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago
  > What country has a working completely private healthcare system? Switzerland [1]. And the Netherlands has a mostly-private system [2]. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_the_Netherlands#Finance https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_the_Netherland...
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  - nixarian 7y ago
    I read compulsory health insurance.
  - burakemir 7y ago
    In Switzerland, health insurance may be private, but is mandatory and there is a large catalog that even the cheapest insurance must cover. On the other hand, the state (each canton) pours large amounts of money into hospitals and research. There are laws and regulations at various levels (edit: eg how many doctors may open a new cabinet), and in these days we are reminded that doctors can be mandated to work when a crisis requires it. Calling this a "completely private healthcare system" is a bit misleading.
    - JumpCrisscross 7y ago
      > Calling this a "completely private healthcare system" is a bit misleading The assets are privately owned. That’s completely private. It’s not laissez faire. But those are different things. Subsidies and buying mandates are compatible with total privatisation, something often lost in this debate.
      - cma 7y ago
        Privitisation of some of the profits, but not of the state-mandated signup scheme or the payments: > The insured person pays the insurance premium for the basic plan up to 8% of their personal income. So some huge portion is state-subsidized for lower incomes. Medicare advantage in the US has similar privitisation aspects as well.
pwrplus1 7y ago
Ah imagination, what a wonderful world you weave.

The costs aren't high because it's private - they're high because the heavily regulated government system has broken the market. In fact the only completely private parts have reasonable prices.

cma 7y ago

What country has a working completely private healthcare system?

JumpCrisscross 7y ago
> What country has a working completely private healthcare system? Switzerland [1]. And the Netherlands has a mostly-private system [2]. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_the_Netherlands#Finance https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_the_Netherland...
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- nixarian 7y ago
  I read compulsory health insurance.
- burakemir 7y ago
  In Switzerland, health insurance may be private, but is mandatory and there is a large catalog that even the cheapest insurance must cover. On the other hand, the state (each canton) pours large amounts of money into hospitals and research. There are laws and regulations at various levels (edit: eg how many doctors may open a new cabinet), and in these days we are reminded that doctors can be mandated to work when a crisis requires it. Calling this a "completely private healthcare system" is a bit misleading.
  - JumpCrisscross 7y ago
    > Calling this a "completely private healthcare system" is a bit misleading The assets are privately owned. That’s completely private. It’s not laissez faire. But those are different things. Subsidies and buying mandates are compatible with total privatisation, something often lost in this debate.
    - cma 7y ago
      Privitisation of some of the profits, but not of the state-mandated signup scheme or the payments: > The insured person pays the insurance premium for the basic plan up to 8% of their personal income. So some huge portion is state-subsidized for lower incomes. Medicare advantage in the US has similar privitisation aspects as well.

pwrplus1 7y ago

Ah imagination, what a wonderful world you weave.