4 ms·

Live in n. italy. Went shopping today to large supermarket. On way, few people in cars, many people out walking though, especially with kids. Supermarket nose-w

Live in n. italy. Went shopping today to large supermarket. On way, few people in cars, many people out walking though, especially with kids. Supermarket nose-wipe section hit fairly hard, but that was it. Stockers were tending to other areas (either no nose wipes left, or not bothered?). Nobody was panicking buying. There was a pa with 'keep a meter away from everybody' announce, which made my kid laugh as we'd been watching you tube video on how far a sneeze can travel. Italians are touchy-feely poeople and this scare might make them take things a bit more seriously healthwise. Friday, i have a hospital appointment for a recent leg injury - will let you know :-) as three weeks ago i was in hospital for 6 days and i got the impression they were 'preparing' for a big outbreak - very few actual doctors around, nurses stepping up, orderlies assisting nurses with basics.

pas 7y ago
Are you concerned about the news out of Bergamo?
- tigroferoce 7y ago
  I am. My wife is a MD, not in Bergamo, though, but the news are quite worrying :-(
  - fredoliveira 7y ago
    I am sorry about hijacking this, but I don't know what's happening in Bergamo. Particularly hard flare of the virus, or something else? Tried searching for news, didn't get far.
    - cataflam 7y ago
      You can read this report from a doctor there (translated in English on reddit): https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/ff8hns/testimony_of_a_surgeon_working_in_bergamo_in_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/ff8hns/testimony_... (the original links in Italian are at the bottom of the post if you prefer that)
      - kryogen1c 7y ago
        And long comments full of vivid imagery lile this are EXACTLY why people are dissuaded from making social media posts, exemplified by the poster: "Sorry, but to me, as a doctor, it's not reassuring that the most serious are mainly elderly people with other pathologies." This could not be less helpful or more harmful. There is no useful information (that i got to, couldnt get all the way through). This is not an letter to the who or CDC trying to affect policy. This is a goddamn reddit post to scare people, vaguely, with the feelings of hospital staff. Im glad this doctor cares about comorbid patients, but this emotional non-rational prose is what drives mass hysteria and panics. We need data and recommendations.
        tejohnso 7y ago
        What's so unhelpful about an honest, informed opinion from someone who is actually directly involved, working in a hospital? Seemed quite helpful to me. Much more so than the pure speculation I'm hearing from other sources. I got the impression the poster wanted to get their truth out, not fear monger.
        deleted 7y ago
        [deleted]
        jpxw 7y ago
        This doctor is simply trying to warn people of what is to come. Anecdotal evidence is never ideal, but in some situations it’s the best we can have. I don’t see any motive for this doctor to create undue panic or hysteria.
        javajosh 7y ago
        Did you read his post? He has recommendations: social distancing, especially for older people. Don't get into crowds. And really: stop complaining that you can't do this or that fun thing, this shit is getting real, and it's coming to a town near you. That last message is really important when lots of people don't seem to take this seriously.
  - bilekas 7y ago
    You're worried about news not in your area ? You worried about how much lube I'm using too ? Moron
  - bilekas 7y ago
    You're wife is an MD and you're worried about the news. Make sure you tell us all where your wife is so we can actually avoid her. > very few actual doctors around, nurses stepping up, orderlies assisting nurses with basics. Should probably text that lad
    - ganonm 7y ago
      Second spammy, abusive comment from this account. Please ban.
      - bilekas 7y ago
        How ? Discussion is based on opinion ? I like HN, but what are you talking about ?
        bilekas 7y ago
        Any answer ?
- C19is20 7y ago
  No, not worried. To me it's 50/50 (im about 1.5hr drive from bergamo)chance that can be tilted in my favor by cleanliness, but more luck… but airborne is airbone. I was out again today - people are a bit 'aware'… but i went to 2 different stores - both fine, asked the cashiers how they are... they're fine. I got the impression shoppers are buying what they need. A middle-aged lady coughed without covering her mouth, that was annoying. Today looks like all kids are 100% at home, not even being out with their friends - that might last two days max, but it's no worse than having measles.

pas 7y ago

Are you concerned about the news out of Bergamo?

tigroferoce 7y ago
I am. My wife is a MD, not in Bergamo, though, but the news are quite worrying :-(
- fredoliveira 7y ago
  I am sorry about hijacking this, but I don't know what's happening in Bergamo. Particularly hard flare of the virus, or something else? Tried searching for news, didn't get far.
  - cataflam 7y ago
    You can read this report from a doctor there (translated in English on reddit): https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/ff8hns/testimony_of_a_surgeon_working_in_bergamo_in_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/ff8hns/testimony_... (the original links in Italian are at the bottom of the post if you prefer that)
    - kryogen1c 7y ago
      And long comments full of vivid imagery lile this are EXACTLY why people are dissuaded from making social media posts, exemplified by the poster: "Sorry, but to me, as a doctor, it's not reassuring that the most serious are mainly elderly people with other pathologies." This could not be less helpful or more harmful. There is no useful information (that i got to, couldnt get all the way through). This is not an letter to the who or CDC trying to affect policy. This is a goddamn reddit post to scare people, vaguely, with the feelings of hospital staff. Im glad this doctor cares about comorbid patients, but this emotional non-rational prose is what drives mass hysteria and panics. We need data and recommendations.
      - tejohnso 7y ago
        What's so unhelpful about an honest, informed opinion from someone who is actually directly involved, working in a hospital? Seemed quite helpful to me. Much more so than the pure speculation I'm hearing from other sources. I got the impression the poster wanted to get their truth out, not fear monger.
        deleted 7y ago
        [deleted]
      - jpxw 7y ago
        This doctor is simply trying to warn people of what is to come. Anecdotal evidence is never ideal, but in some situations it’s the best we can have. I don’t see any motive for this doctor to create undue panic or hysteria.
      - javajosh 7y ago
        Did you read his post? He has recommendations: social distancing, especially for older people. Don't get into crowds. And really: stop complaining that you can't do this or that fun thing, this shit is getting real, and it's coming to a town near you. That last message is really important when lots of people don't seem to take this seriously.
- bilekas 7y ago
  You're worried about news not in your area ? You worried about how much lube I'm using too ? Moron
- bilekas 7y ago
  You're wife is an MD and you're worried about the news. Make sure you tell us all where your wife is so we can actually avoid her. > very few actual doctors around, nurses stepping up, orderlies assisting nurses with basics. Should probably text that lad
  - ganonm 7y ago
    Second spammy, abusive comment from this account. Please ban.
    - bilekas 7y ago
      How ? Discussion is based on opinion ? I like HN, but what are you talking about ?
      - bilekas 7y ago
        Any answer ?
C19is20 7y ago
No, not worried. To me it's 50/50 (im about 1.5hr drive from bergamo)chance that can be tilted in my favor by cleanliness, but more luck… but airborne is airbone. I was out again today - people are a bit 'aware'… but i went to 2 different stores - both fine, asked the cashiers how they are... they're fine. I got the impression shoppers are buying what they need. A middle-aged lady coughed without covering her mouth, that was annoying. Today looks like all kids are 100% at home, not even being out with their friends - that might last two days max, but it's no worse than having measles.