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It is terrifying that people actually advocate for such authoritarian measures outside of mainland China. Every tyrant ever existed probably had at least one va

by soheil 7y ago

It is terrifying that people actually advocate for such authoritarian measures outside of mainland China. Every tyrant ever existed probably had at least one valid reason to justify their particular flavor of tyrannical rule. Coincidentally often it's not very difficult to find numbers that back up stripping people of their freedom, just find the right statistics.

dcolkitt 7y ago
Air travelers already submit too much more invasive measures. It's not like the airport is a bastion of civil liberties or privacy. I can guarantee you that the entrances and public parts of the bathroom (including the sinks) are already monitored by cameras. Also, I don't understand how this proposal is authoritarian in the slightest. As written it involves zero coercion. The only enforcement mechanism is social pressure, a force that already molds everybody's behavior umpteen times a day to begin with.
- 43920 7y ago
  > Air travelers already submit too much more invasive measures. It's not like the airport is a bastion of civil liberties or privacy. I can guarantee you that the entrances and public parts of the bathroom (including the sinks) are already monitored by cameras. This is basically the definition of a slippery slope.
- buyone 7y ago
  I wouldn’t count publicly shaming them as “zero coercion” and by definition authoritarian is “favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority at the expense of personal freedom”. Even though I do agree that everyone should wash their hands, this is not the way to do it.
LargoLasskhyfv 7y ago
What is terrifying of denying people acting like pigs the possibility of spreading their shit? I mean in general, not only because of the current scare. They should be TAZED by some installed automatic system.
ben509 7y ago
Yelling at people "wash your filthy hands" isn't authoritarian. Social opprobrium is how a free society regulates itself: it's the authority of your peers rather than the authority of superiors.

by soheil 7y ago

dcolkitt 7y ago

Air travelers already submit too much more invasive measures. It's not like the airport is a bastion of civil liberties or privacy. I can guarantee you that the entrances and public parts of the bathroom (including the sinks) are already monitored by cameras. Also, I don't understand how this proposal is authoritarian in the slightest. As written it involves zero coercion. The only enforcement mechanism is social pressure, a force that already molds everybody's behavior umpteen times a day to begin with.

43920 7y ago
> Air travelers already submit too much more invasive measures. It's not like the airport is a bastion of civil liberties or privacy. I can guarantee you that the entrances and public parts of the bathroom (including the sinks) are already monitored by cameras. This is basically the definition of a slippery slope.
buyone 7y ago
I wouldn’t count publicly shaming them as “zero coercion” and by definition authoritarian is “favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority at the expense of personal freedom”. Even though I do agree that everyone should wash their hands, this is not the way to do it.

LargoLasskhyfv 7y ago

What is terrifying of denying people acting like pigs the possibility of spreading their shit? I mean in general, not only because of the current scare. They should be TAZED by some installed automatic system.

ben509 7y ago

Yelling at people "wash your filthy hands" isn't authoritarian. Social opprobrium is how a free society regulates itself: it's the authority of your peers rather than the authority of superiors.