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Well I agree with you a lot of reasoning is very uninformed. But I don't agree Facebook isn't to blame. Power comes with responsibility. At least that is what

by thdrdt 7y ago

Well I agree with you a lot of reasoning is very uninformed. But I don't agree Facebook isn't to blame. Power comes with responsibility. At least that is what most countries believe. So if you make money with a very powerful tool that could potentially bring down a government (this is what a judge has to decide) then you are to blame when your APIs where to lose. It's like building a nuclear facility with mud.

jariel 7y ago
A) Facebook did not abuse their power in any way (at least in the case). B) The notion that the resulting action 'brought down governments' is just beyond false. Anyone involved in digital marketing knows how absurd these claims are, moreover, there are numerous other, legal, and very common practices being used all the time that are considerably more impactful. To boot: C) The suing government's actions are vindictive and biased. A commenter above posted a link to refer to the UK government's damage claims. As part of the countersuit, FB demanded that UK office (ICO) demonstrate it's objectivity in the situation (the judge agreed). So guess what happened? The government made a quick perusal of their own communications and realized they would be destroyed in scandal and moved for a quick resolution with a very small settlement. FB has good and bad attributes we have to be smart about it, this kind of 'anti information angry mob' stuff should be beneath people.
- thdrdt 7y ago
  A: I am aware of this. But they provide the tool. B: They did not bring down any government. But the question is: is the tool named Facebook powerful enough to do so? And if true: did they do enough to prevent this? C: Maybe they are biased. That's up to a judge to decide.
manfredo 7y ago
> But I don't agree Facebook isn't to blame. > Power comes with responsibility. At least that is what most countries believe. But the question remains unanswered: what is Facebook to blame for? What responsibility did they shirk? Cambridge Analytica lied about the purposes of their data and subsequently lied about deleting the data they collected. But Facebook remained true to their agreement to only share this data for academic purposes, and when they discovered that some university researchers were violating this agreement they terminated this data sharing program. With the benefit of hindsight we can say that Facebook should have been more doubtful of the integrity of academics - but without that hindsight I'm not sure what Facebook did wrong.

by thdrdt 7y ago

jariel 7y ago

A) Facebook did not abuse their power in any way (at least in the case). B) The notion that the resulting action 'brought down governments' is just beyond false. Anyone involved in digital marketing knows how absurd these claims are, moreover, there are numerous other, legal, and very common practices being used all the time that are considerably more impactful. To boot: C) The suing government's actions are vindictive and biased. A commenter above posted a link to refer to the UK government's damage claims. As part of the countersuit, FB demanded that UK office (ICO) demonstrate it's objectivity in the situation (the judge agreed). So guess what happened? The government made a quick perusal of their own communications and realized they would be destroyed in scandal and moved for a quick resolution with a very small settlement. FB has good and bad attributes we have to be smart about it, this kind of 'anti information angry mob' stuff should be beneath people.

thdrdt 7y ago
A: I am aware of this. But they provide the tool. B: They did not bring down any government. But the question is: is the tool named Facebook powerful enough to do so? And if true: did they do enough to prevent this? C: Maybe they are biased. That's up to a judge to decide.

manfredo 7y ago

> But I don't agree Facebook isn't to blame. > Power comes with responsibility. At least that is what most countries believe. But the question remains unanswered: what is Facebook to blame for? What responsibility did they shirk? Cambridge Analytica lied about the purposes of their data and subsequently lied about deleting the data they collected. But Facebook remained true to their agreement to only share this data for academic purposes, and when they discovered that some university researchers were violating this agreement they terminated this data sharing program. With the benefit of hindsight we can say that Facebook should have been more doubtful of the integrity of academics - but without that hindsight I'm not sure what Facebook did wrong.