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I got no skin in US or PRC but I'd like to point out that US screwed up their handling on Covid.19 while China, having the largest outbreak, seems to manage to

I got no skin in US or PRC but I'd like to point out that US screwed up their handling on Covid.19 while China, having the largest outbreak, seems to manage to keep things under control. You can argue the technique, but you can't argue the result. Seeing your nickname has "_hk" (hong kong?) I would imagine there's some sentiment against PRC? Let's remove that sentiment for now since virus does not select people based on race nor political ideology.

whatshisface 7y ago
China's messed up handling and initial cover-up is why anyone else had an opportunity to mess up their national response in the first place... Remember the doctor who was silenced by the police? They could have stopped it if they didn't have such strong state culture against realizing facts contradictory to their plans. Really, the virus does select people for political ideology. Governments with denialist streaks tend to get selected. (Don't think that the US got it right either, I just don't want China's huge initial mistake to be forgotten in light of their recent draconian efforts.)
- throw4532e 7y ago
  Seeing how other countries are handling it now, with one month of advanced notice, I no longer believe China’s initial response was so bad. So many countries are still dismissing it as “just the flu.” Unless they quarantined Wuhan back in early December, I doubt they could have stopped it.
  - whatshisface 7y ago
    What other countries have police sending nastygrams to doctors, telling them to hush up?
    - hello_moto 7y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22527480 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22527480 I've got quite a few fellow Iranians that debunked the health minister Covid.19 infection as political drama to show that "hey, I'm the health minister and I got covid.19, it's not bad" while they covered up the initial infection numbers that was denied by local lawmakers at Qom. These are not apple to apple "handling the situation" but the goal is the same: downplay, restore order, lie if necessary.
Der_Einzige 7y ago
You know that China is most likely lying about their infection numbers. They have to "save face" and all that. I don't know which is worse, not testing, or actively lying.
- hello_moto 7y ago
  I think their infection number is still the highest among all countries so at this point: it doesn't matter. They're still the most affected.

whatshisface 7y ago

China's messed up handling and initial cover-up is why anyone else had an opportunity to mess up their national response in the first place... Remember the doctor who was silenced by the police? They could have stopped it if they didn't have such strong state culture against realizing facts contradictory to their plans. Really, the virus does select people for political ideology. Governments with denialist streaks tend to get selected. (Don't think that the US got it right either, I just don't want China's huge initial mistake to be forgotten in light of their recent draconian efforts.)

throw4532e 7y ago
Seeing how other countries are handling it now, with one month of advanced notice, I no longer believe China’s initial response was so bad. So many countries are still dismissing it as “just the flu.” Unless they quarantined Wuhan back in early December, I doubt they could have stopped it.
- whatshisface 7y ago
  What other countries have police sending nastygrams to doctors, telling them to hush up?
  - hello_moto 7y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22527480 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22527480 I've got quite a few fellow Iranians that debunked the health minister Covid.19 infection as political drama to show that "hey, I'm the health minister and I got covid.19, it's not bad" while they covered up the initial infection numbers that was denied by local lawmakers at Qom. These are not apple to apple "handling the situation" but the goal is the same: downplay, restore order, lie if necessary.

Der_Einzige 7y ago

You know that China is most likely lying about their infection numbers. They have to "save face" and all that. I don't know which is worse, not testing, or actively lying.

hello_moto 7y ago
I think their infection number is still the highest among all countries so at this point: it doesn't matter. They're still the most affected.