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Is it not obvious? For all its various faults, the US government isn't known for endless constant censorship of the press and social media for anything it doesn

Is it not obvious? For all its various faults, the US government isn't known for endless constant censorship of the press and social media for anything it doesn't like. There's no US equivalent to the Great Firewall. China will censor "Winnie the Pooh" because it must tame any criticism of its Dear Leader, meanwhile you can compare Trump to any number of fictional or real characters and nothing will happen.

throwaway9878 7y ago
Untrue. You will be jailed, harassed, ridiculed, or killed in the Western world for questioning holocaust evidence because doing so would completely undermine the ideological basis of leadership in the West.
- dTal 7y ago
  You will be ridiculed by your peers, not the government, because the reality of the holocaust is very well documented, and deniers are suspected of motivated reasoning. But jailed or killed? I highly doubt that. They aren't comparable in the slightest.
  - hinkley 7y ago
    The 1st Amendment protects your right to say anything you want. But it also protects my right to call you an idiot for saying it.
- jshevek 7y ago
  >You will be jailed... in the Western world for questioning holocaust evidence The context defining claims related to the US and China, not Germany. You will not be jailed in the US for questioning the Holocaust. > harassed, ridiculed Ok, but still not relevant to the conversation > Killed I hesitate to go further off topic, but do you have a citation for this claim?
- dang 7y ago
  Please don't do this here.
lucian1900 7y ago
US capitalists are constantly involved in censoring and shaping of the press. There is no need for a Great Firewall since all enterprises are privately owned and voluntarily censor as much as is needed [1] China does not even censor "Winnie the Pooh", feel free to look it up on Baidu. If you have believed this obvious lie, what else have you believed? Consider that perhaps the dominant group in your country have an incentive to lie to you about a threat to their profits. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unKNNiYQFp4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unKNNiYQFp4
- TulliusCicero 7y ago
  > US capitalists are constantly involved in censoring and shaping of the press. There is no need for a Great Firewall since all enterprises are privately owned and voluntarily censor as much as is needed [1] Ah yes, the many popular social media platforms that censor all criticism and mockery of Trump, such as: > China does not even censor "Winnie the Pooh" Uh huh: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-winnie-the-pooh-film-to-stop-comparisons-to-president-xi https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-win...
  - lucian1900 7y ago
    You can mock Trump, but Assange is being tortured for publishing information the US & UK states censored. Talk to a Chinese citizen some time. You'll find that mockery is allowed, but uncommon. Some peoples like the leaders they chose.

throwaway9878 7y ago

Untrue. You will be jailed, harassed, ridiculed, or killed in the Western world for questioning holocaust evidence because doing so would completely undermine the ideological basis of leadership in the West.

dTal 7y ago
You will be ridiculed by your peers, not the government, because the reality of the holocaust is very well documented, and deniers are suspected of motivated reasoning. But jailed or killed? I highly doubt that. They aren't comparable in the slightest.
- hinkley 7y ago
  The 1st Amendment protects your right to say anything you want. But it also protects my right to call you an idiot for saying it.
jshevek 7y ago
>You will be jailed... in the Western world for questioning holocaust evidence The context defining claims related to the US and China, not Germany. You will not be jailed in the US for questioning the Holocaust. > harassed, ridiculed Ok, but still not relevant to the conversation > Killed I hesitate to go further off topic, but do you have a citation for this claim?
dang 7y ago
Please don't do this here.

lucian1900 7y ago

US capitalists are constantly involved in censoring and shaping of the press. There is no need for a Great Firewall since all enterprises are privately owned and voluntarily censor as much as is needed [1] China does not even censor "Winnie the Pooh", feel free to look it up on Baidu. If you have believed this obvious lie, what else have you believed? Consider that perhaps the dominant group in your country have an incentive to lie to you about a threat to their profits. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unKNNiYQFp4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unKNNiYQFp4

TulliusCicero 7y ago
> US capitalists are constantly involved in censoring and shaping of the press. There is no need for a Great Firewall since all enterprises are privately owned and voluntarily censor as much as is needed [1] Ah yes, the many popular social media platforms that censor all criticism and mockery of Trump, such as: > China does not even censor "Winnie the Pooh" Uh huh: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-winnie-the-pooh-film-to-stop-comparisons-to-president-xi https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-win...
- lucian1900 7y ago
  You can mock Trump, but Assange is being tortured for publishing information the US & UK states censored. Talk to a Chinese citizen some time. You'll find that mockery is allowed, but uncommon. Some peoples like the leaders they chose.