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People are constantly predicting the death of Macs. Every time a rumor comes out, “well macs are for real professionals anymore” and every time a new Mac is rel

People are constantly predicting the death of Macs. Every time a rumor comes out, “well macs are for real professionals anymore” and every time a new Mac is released “well Apple is finished with real professionals”. Never fails.

chrisseaton 7y ago
I don't even know what people really mean by 'professionals'. I think it's 'people with my exact workflow'. I mean a lawyer is a professional and they can probably do fine with a 2014 Air.
- pjmlp 7y ago
  Somehow I think they always mean GNU/Linux devs using macOS as pretty UNIX.
  - fierarul 7y ago
    Oddly enough, when I first had money for a computer I picked whatever was closer to an UNIX. The Mac won because Thinkpad came out of the box with Windows and they never officially supported any Linux flavour. Today I would compare the Mac with the Dell XPS which is Linux certified. Different times.
    - pjmlp 7y ago
      Fair enough, but that is a niche use case, and not what developers registered on ADC care about, nor the users of their applications.
      - fierarul 7y ago
        I think it's obvious most of what's said here is one's personal opinion. I mentioned 'many' prosumers. I believe there are 'many' Java developers that use Macs but in the grand scheme of things I imagine it's a tiny sliver of the overall professional user base. So, yeah, I don't believe Apple is committing suicide with any market move they make. They have the data, they have the marketing, they will do well. But Macs don't seem like a good future developer workstation to me. Not anymore.
        pjmlp 7y ago
        Agreed, by the way in what concerns Java, ARM support is doing just fine.
- lonelappde 7y ago
  Obviously they mean professionals who partner with computers that perform specialist tasks. Software developers, 3D movie animators, etc. A lawyer with a camera is a "professional" "photographer" but not necessarily a "professional photographer"
- chipotle_coyote 7y ago
  I think that's the definition most people use, even if they don't admit it. :) "No one can get real work done on an iPad" is essentially the same statement: what they usually mean is "I can't (or don't know how to) get all of my work done on an iPad."
- wolfgke 7y ago
  > I mean a lawyer is a professional and they can probably do fine with a 2014 Air. Perhaps we should replace "professional" by the more clear term "power users" to avoid this nitpicking. Clearly, a lawyer is a professional in the sense of the job he is doing, but is also clearly not a power user in the sense of computer usage.

chrisseaton 7y ago

I don't even know what people really mean by 'professionals'. I think it's 'people with my exact workflow'. I mean a lawyer is a professional and they can probably do fine with a 2014 Air.

pjmlp 7y ago
Somehow I think they always mean GNU/Linux devs using macOS as pretty UNIX.
- fierarul 7y ago
  Oddly enough, when I first had money for a computer I picked whatever was closer to an UNIX. The Mac won because Thinkpad came out of the box with Windows and they never officially supported any Linux flavour. Today I would compare the Mac with the Dell XPS which is Linux certified. Different times.
  - pjmlp 7y ago
    Fair enough, but that is a niche use case, and not what developers registered on ADC care about, nor the users of their applications.
    - fierarul 7y ago
      I think it's obvious most of what's said here is one's personal opinion. I mentioned 'many' prosumers. I believe there are 'many' Java developers that use Macs but in the grand scheme of things I imagine it's a tiny sliver of the overall professional user base. So, yeah, I don't believe Apple is committing suicide with any market move they make. They have the data, they have the marketing, they will do well. But Macs don't seem like a good future developer workstation to me. Not anymore.
      - pjmlp 7y ago
        Agreed, by the way in what concerns Java, ARM support is doing just fine.
lonelappde 7y ago
Obviously they mean professionals who partner with computers that perform specialist tasks. Software developers, 3D movie animators, etc. A lawyer with a camera is a "professional" "photographer" but not necessarily a "professional photographer"
chipotle_coyote 7y ago
I think that's the definition most people use, even if they don't admit it. :) "No one can get real work done on an iPad" is essentially the same statement: what they usually mean is "I can't (or don't know how to) get all of my work done on an iPad."
wolfgke 7y ago
> I mean a lawyer is a professional and they can probably do fine with a 2014 Air. Perhaps we should replace "professional" by the more clear term "power users" to avoid this nitpicking. Clearly, a lawyer is a professional in the sense of the job he is doing, but is also clearly not a power user in the sense of computer usage.