> I think you're putting words in his mouth... again, you put words in his mouth as well. FYI I am totally different person to jacobolus, who made the origina

> I think you're putting words in his mouth... again, you put words in his mouth as well. FYI I am totally different person to jacobolus, who made the original post you responded to. I'm not the one putting words in people's mouth. I don't totally agree with jacobolus's statement, I think the final numbers will be lower [0], but I do believe there's merit to his claim and am more than happy to respond and provide sources. > Re: Leung Leung has made further statements, suggesting that billions could be infected. For example, in this recent interview, he stated: https://www.news.com.au/technology/public-health-expert-warns-coronavirus-could-infect-60-per-cent-of-world-population/news-story/d71b9792e47df37d44df03bbb8b3f8e3 https://www.news.com.au/technology/public-health-expert-warn... “Everybody is susceptible. If you assume that everybody randomly mix with each other, then eventually you will see 40, 50, 60 per cent of the population get infected.” > Lipsitch's comment in your own link begins with "if a pandemic happens" That's a moot point. Lipsitch is saying we're already in a pandemic, under almost any reasonable definition of pandemic. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00551-1 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00551-1 I think you'd have a better line of argument if you pointed out that neither of the two explicitly stated "millions if not tens of millions" of people will die. I'll conceded that's true, I haven't yet seen a top epidemiologist explicitly state so. However if you take one of the lower estimates of the death rate (0.5%), and apply it to their infection estimates, you'll get millions dead. If the WHO's official 3.4% CFR announced a couple days ago holds or increases, we'll see tens of millions dead. [0] Once enough people have died (tens of thousands), countries will get their act together and start doing proper quarantines, social distancing, and hygienic controls.