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Its performance is so horrible that even on a high spec machine with fast internet, you have plenty of time to click the "switch to plain ol html" button. Which

by eyegor 7y ago

Its performance is so horrible that even on a high spec machine with fast internet, you have plenty of time to click the "switch to plain ol html" button. Which is actually more in line with the performance I'd expect from a glorified file drawer.

waheoo 7y ago
Loads instantly for me on FF desktop and laptop running linux. But i have experienced what youre talking about. You either have graphics hardware support disabled or youre laptop CPU is not running in perfoance mode and has its govenor set to something like balanced or power saving mode.
- crooked-v 7y ago
  ...why is a web-based email client depending on graphics hardware?
  - alharith 7y ago
    The same reason your desktop based email client probably depends on it. It’s 2020 and developers are starting to make use of all the modern browser features. It’s time to stop thinking like the browser is some fickle thing that needs to be caressed and treat it like a sandboxed OS environment for delivering apps and content.
    - int_19h 7y ago
      We had rich desktop email clients - with more features than GMail - running on sub-GHz CPUs with integrated graphics. They also had better UI.
      - x3haloed 7y ago
        Obviously native code is faster than a generalized scripting language for the web. Again, it's all about what you're trying to achieve. You can still use those fast native clients, but you can also access your Gmail from any device that has a web browser, which is basically everything. If Gmail is slow today, then obviously Google has lost sight of that point.
- eyegor 7y ago
  I've never found a way around it. Hardware acceleration on/off, windows, linux, phone, workstation, ff, chrome/ium, it always loads like crap. And my daily drivers are a dual xeon workstation or an overclocked zen3 machine, pretty far from laptop constraints. Gmail just has no interest in being performant, I guess. I don't have this issue with other sites, it's just Gmail being Gmail.
- Izkata 7y ago
  I don't think it's graphics support, but I have the same experience: The vast majority of the time, gmail in firefox loads in fraction of a second, too fast to click "basic HTML" view. And I'm not on something like fiber, just basic cable internet.
karatestomp 7y ago
I have plenty of time to hit "load basic HTML" on damn beefy machines running on Google Fiber (LOL).

by eyegor 7y ago

waheoo 7y ago

Loads instantly for me on FF desktop and laptop running linux. But i have experienced what youre talking about. You either have graphics hardware support disabled or youre laptop CPU is not running in perfoance mode and has its govenor set to something like balanced or power saving mode.

crooked-v 7y ago
...why is a web-based email client depending on graphics hardware?
- alharith 7y ago
  The same reason your desktop based email client probably depends on it. It’s 2020 and developers are starting to make use of all the modern browser features. It’s time to stop thinking like the browser is some fickle thing that needs to be caressed and treat it like a sandboxed OS environment for delivering apps and content.
  - int_19h 7y ago
    We had rich desktop email clients - with more features than GMail - running on sub-GHz CPUs with integrated graphics. They also had better UI.
    - x3haloed 7y ago
      Obviously native code is faster than a generalized scripting language for the web. Again, it's all about what you're trying to achieve. You can still use those fast native clients, but you can also access your Gmail from any device that has a web browser, which is basically everything. If Gmail is slow today, then obviously Google has lost sight of that point.
eyegor 7y ago
I've never found a way around it. Hardware acceleration on/off, windows, linux, phone, workstation, ff, chrome/ium, it always loads like crap. And my daily drivers are a dual xeon workstation or an overclocked zen3 machine, pretty far from laptop constraints. Gmail just has no interest in being performant, I guess. I don't have this issue with other sites, it's just Gmail being Gmail.
Izkata 7y ago
I don't think it's graphics support, but I have the same experience: The vast majority of the time, gmail in firefox loads in fraction of a second, too fast to click "basic HTML" view. And I'm not on something like fiber, just basic cable internet.

karatestomp 7y ago

I have plenty of time to hit "load basic HTML" on damn beefy machines running on Google Fiber (LOL).