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PPC definitely won't work on Catalina. PPC support was dropped from macOS years ago. The Intel binary is 32-bit only. Catalina will only run 64-bit binaries.

PPC definitely won't work on Catalina. PPC support was dropped from macOS years ago. The Intel binary is 32-bit only. Catalina will only run 64-bit binaries. $ file rebol rebol: Mach-O executable i386

pmarreck 7y ago
Does anyone else think cutting off 32-bit support basically killed off what remained appealing about the Mac that differentiated it from being just a “desktop iOS iPad in the iCloud ecosystem”? I lost access to so much cherished stuff that I am currently evaluating a switch to Ubuntu 20.04
- mushufasa 7y ago
  well, ubuntu is also dropping support for 32-bit. they tried to a little while ago and got a lot of backlash so they're supporting for a bit longer, but it's only a matter of time.
  - kragen 7y ago
    I think they're dropping support for installation on 32-bit machines, not the 32-bit libraries needed to run 32-bit software on a 64-bit OS.
    - michaelmrose 7y ago
      The former already happened. In this case it was the latter. this would have ruined wine right when stream was beginning to make running games with wine easy.
      - kragen 7y ago
        Oh, thanks!
- samatman 7y ago
  Of all the tiny papercuts I've suffered on macOS over the last five years, I don't miss 32-bit apps at all. Must have just gotten lucky, but literally nothing stopped working when I migrated to a new Catalina machine. Ok I had to do some jimmying to get Keybase back, but that wasn't a 32/64-bit issue, that was weird kext permissions stuff.
  - pmarreck 7y ago
    I guess it depends what you use the computer for. Pretty much 90% of my Steam games that had Mac versions, suddenly did not work. And there was no warning, because most of them weren't currently installed (so the catalina installer didn't warn); I just got a cross through them after upgrading. "Mac gaming" wasn't something I did that much anymore, but I had a lot of attachment to certain games (some which of course "I totally intended to replay one day") and suddenly they became unavailable. Many older apps I still ran now and then, stopped working. I kept my S.O. on Mojave so that I wouldn't be forced to upgrade her Office suite to the subscription model Microsoft is pushing. Etc.
- jlarocco 7y ago
  Not really. I'm mostly on Debian, only using OSX for photo editting and some development, but I honestly didn't realize 32-bit desktop apps were still a thing. I understand the frustration, though. Apple's spent the last 5 years or so dropping features I care about and breaking things important to me, across my iPhone, iPad, and MBP.

pmarreck 7y ago

Does anyone else think cutting off 32-bit support basically killed off what remained appealing about the Mac that differentiated it from being just a “desktop iOS iPad in the iCloud ecosystem”? I lost access to so much cherished stuff that I am currently evaluating a switch to Ubuntu 20.04

mushufasa 7y ago
well, ubuntu is also dropping support for 32-bit. they tried to a little while ago and got a lot of backlash so they're supporting for a bit longer, but it's only a matter of time.
- kragen 7y ago
  I think they're dropping support for installation on 32-bit machines, not the 32-bit libraries needed to run 32-bit software on a 64-bit OS.
  - michaelmrose 7y ago
    The former already happened. In this case it was the latter. this would have ruined wine right when stream was beginning to make running games with wine easy.
    - kragen 7y ago
      Oh, thanks!
samatman 7y ago
Of all the tiny papercuts I've suffered on macOS over the last five years, I don't miss 32-bit apps at all. Must have just gotten lucky, but literally nothing stopped working when I migrated to a new Catalina machine. Ok I had to do some jimmying to get Keybase back, but that wasn't a 32/64-bit issue, that was weird kext permissions stuff.
- pmarreck 7y ago
  I guess it depends what you use the computer for. Pretty much 90% of my Steam games that had Mac versions, suddenly did not work. And there was no warning, because most of them weren't currently installed (so the catalina installer didn't warn); I just got a cross through them after upgrading. "Mac gaming" wasn't something I did that much anymore, but I had a lot of attachment to certain games (some which of course "I totally intended to replay one day") and suddenly they became unavailable. Many older apps I still ran now and then, stopped working. I kept my S.O. on Mojave so that I wouldn't be forced to upgrade her Office suite to the subscription model Microsoft is pushing. Etc.
jlarocco 7y ago
Not really. I'm mostly on Debian, only using OSX for photo editting and some development, but I honestly didn't realize 32-bit desktop apps were still a thing. I understand the frustration, though. Apple's spent the last 5 years or so dropping features I care about and breaking things important to me, across my iPhone, iPad, and MBP.