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That's a disingenuous argument. All major companies have created native apps for a reason, many after trying to just use a mobile web version. The features from

That's a disingenuous argument. All major companies have created native apps for a reason, many after trying to just use a mobile web version. The features from privacy, offline abilities, data access, sensor access, and more are not available over the web. And users prefer apps over creating Safari shortcuts, if they even know how to do the latter. Why is it good for a single company to determine what you can and can't do on your phone?

scarface74 7y ago
Well seeing that Apple only has a 15% market share in the phone market, it’s kind of obvious that it’s not a single company controlling the market. Why would anyone who doesn’t like Apple’s policies not just by an Android?
- manigandham 7y ago
  The question was about your phone, not the entire market. And saying "just buy something else" isn't a great argument when there are a few massive tech companies controlling everything and enforcing ever more control. Apple has already shown their problematic approach with the situation in Hong Kong.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    But why complain about a phone that only controls 15% of the market, when 85% of phones out there run an operating system that does allow side loading. And in the particular case of the HkMap app, what functionality did you not get on the website?
    - manigandham 7y ago
      Because people want iOS (which has more and better apps) but with control. This is specifically about Apple controlling too much on their phones, and why that's acceptable. HKMap needs strong offline support since it's an actual map showing dangerous/important areas and people. It also used mesh networking for updates from other devices. Neither is possible on Safari. I would say that apps aren't as blocked as easily as a website either, but Apple proved that wrong which is the reason for the question on their control.

scarface74 7y ago

Well seeing that Apple only has a 15% market share in the phone market, it’s kind of obvious that it’s not a single company controlling the market. Why would anyone who doesn’t like Apple’s policies not just by an Android?

manigandham 7y ago
The question was about your phone, not the entire market. And saying "just buy something else" isn't a great argument when there are a few massive tech companies controlling everything and enforcing ever more control. Apple has already shown their problematic approach with the situation in Hong Kong.
- scarface74 7y ago
  But why complain about a phone that only controls 15% of the market, when 85% of phones out there run an operating system that does allow side loading. And in the particular case of the HkMap app, what functionality did you not get on the website?
  - manigandham 7y ago
    Because people want iOS (which has more and better apps) but with control. This is specifically about Apple controlling too much on their phones, and why that's acceptable. HKMap needs strong offline support since it's an actual map showing dangerous/important areas and people. It also used mesh networking for updates from other devices. Neither is possible on Safari. I would say that apps aren't as blocked as easily as a website either, but Apple proved that wrong which is the reason for the question on their control.