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There are porn apps I'd like to be able to create/run but Apple's disallows porn apps forcing me to use some other less private platform if I want to run sex po

There are porn apps I'd like to be able to create/run but Apple's disallows porn apps forcing me to use some other less private platform if I want to run sex positive porn apps which in effect makes my activity less private. Further, even if they did allow porn apps via the store Apple has a list of all apps I install so they know if I install "tooKinkyToBePublic.app". They really do need to allow easy side loading and/or alternate stores. I shouldn't have to chose between Apple's nanny-state "no porn apps", "no political apps" allowed and "privacy"

scarface74 7y ago
So why do you need a porn “app”? Do I even want to ask what you could do with an app that you can’t do with a website?
- fragmede 7y ago
  Don't be obtuse. There are plenty of things an app can do that can't be accomplished by an website, including being listed in the Apple app store, for one. Apple hides the ability to add a website to the home screen somewhere inside of Safari, instead of making it a first class feature and including a UI for it in the "App" "store". If they did that, a lot of apps could viably just be a website instead.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    That didn’t answer the question. What can a porn app do that a website can’t do? Adding a website to the home screen has been prominent in Safari since 2007. Go to the share sheet and scroll up. How many websites have a prominent pointer on iOS devices showing you how to do it. But the App Store is not known to be a place of discoverability. On top of that, how many mainstream platforms and physical stores allow porn to be prominent? The most popular video site - Youtube - doesn’t allow porn.
    - saagarjha 7y ago
      > What can a porn app do that a website can’t do? Oh, come on, you know very well why you'd want a native app: it's the exact same reason why you'd download a native app for anything else; they can be more polished, use platform APIs, download files… > On top of that, how many mainstream platforms and physical stores allow porn to be prominent? The most popular video site - Youtube - doesn’t allow porn. Because the ad platform it uses doesn't like it?
      - scarface74 7y ago
        They can be more polished but these days how many apps are using a cross platform framework and/or just wrapping a WebView? You can upload and download files from Safari on iOS.
        saagarjha 7y ago
        > They can be more polished but these days how many apps are using a cross platform framework and/or just wrapping a WebView? There's still a decent number that aren't. > You can upload and download files from Safari on iOS. The UX on this is significantly worse, even if you consider iOS 13's new downloads manager.
    - kalleboo 7y ago
      > What can a porn app do that a website can’t do? How well do AR/VR/3D applications run in Safari?
    - oarsinsync 7y ago
      > how many mainstream platforms and physical stores allow porn to be prominent Less than 15 years ago, it used to be common in UK supermarkets for there to be a section at the entrance dedicated to newspapers and magazines. A good section of the top shelf would feature porn magazines. The printed covers of the magazines would generally be masked with some cardboard, so you couldn't see the explicit content by mistake, but could still see the title of the magazine. Print media is generally in decline, so these sections no longer exist in quite the same form as they used to in supermarkets, but this is as prominent as it needs to be. In the past, this meant it was (literally) out of reach of children, but still readily available to adults, and only if they reach for it. Why isn't that acceptable anymore?
- sexpositiveuser 7y ago
  There are 1000s of porn apps on non-privacy oriented platforms that I'd prefer to be able to run on a privacy prioritized platform. Examples include CG porn creation apps including Virt-A-Mate, TK17, Honey Select, etc... There are also real time 3D VR porn apps and even AR porn apps Apple's platform currently limits freedom of expression. Sure you can watch any movie you want or read any website but the future will clearly include interactivity with real time VR, AR, 3D, etc... Imagine if Apple invented the holodeck but their app store disallowed sex!??!? It's ridiculous that such a "progressive" company has just a poor position on sex positive apps. I get they don't want to sell them in their store which is why they arguably need to over alternatives.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    How much “privacy” would you get from an app that has access to the internet? iOS only allows you to block cellular access to apps.

scarface74 7y ago

So why do you need a porn “app”? Do I even want to ask what you could do with an app that you can’t do with a website?

fragmede 7y ago
Don't be obtuse. There are plenty of things an app can do that can't be accomplished by an website, including being listed in the Apple app store, for one. Apple hides the ability to add a website to the home screen somewhere inside of Safari, instead of making it a first class feature and including a UI for it in the "App" "store". If they did that, a lot of apps could viably just be a website instead.
- scarface74 7y ago
  That didn’t answer the question. What can a porn app do that a website can’t do? Adding a website to the home screen has been prominent in Safari since 2007. Go to the share sheet and scroll up. How many websites have a prominent pointer on iOS devices showing you how to do it. But the App Store is not known to be a place of discoverability. On top of that, how many mainstream platforms and physical stores allow porn to be prominent? The most popular video site - Youtube - doesn’t allow porn.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    > What can a porn app do that a website can’t do? Oh, come on, you know very well why you'd want a native app: it's the exact same reason why you'd download a native app for anything else; they can be more polished, use platform APIs, download files… > On top of that, how many mainstream platforms and physical stores allow porn to be prominent? The most popular video site - Youtube - doesn’t allow porn. Because the ad platform it uses doesn't like it?
    - scarface74 7y ago
      They can be more polished but these days how many apps are using a cross platform framework and/or just wrapping a WebView? You can upload and download files from Safari on iOS.
      - saagarjha 7y ago
        > They can be more polished but these days how many apps are using a cross platform framework and/or just wrapping a WebView? There's still a decent number that aren't. > You can upload and download files from Safari on iOS. The UX on this is significantly worse, even if you consider iOS 13's new downloads manager.
  - kalleboo 7y ago
    > What can a porn app do that a website can’t do? How well do AR/VR/3D applications run in Safari?
  - oarsinsync 7y ago
    > how many mainstream platforms and physical stores allow porn to be prominent Less than 15 years ago, it used to be common in UK supermarkets for there to be a section at the entrance dedicated to newspapers and magazines. A good section of the top shelf would feature porn magazines. The printed covers of the magazines would generally be masked with some cardboard, so you couldn't see the explicit content by mistake, but could still see the title of the magazine. Print media is generally in decline, so these sections no longer exist in quite the same form as they used to in supermarkets, but this is as prominent as it needs to be. In the past, this meant it was (literally) out of reach of children, but still readily available to adults, and only if they reach for it. Why isn't that acceptable anymore?
sexpositiveuser 7y ago
There are 1000s of porn apps on non-privacy oriented platforms that I'd prefer to be able to run on a privacy prioritized platform. Examples include CG porn creation apps including Virt-A-Mate, TK17, Honey Select, etc... There are also real time 3D VR porn apps and even AR porn apps Apple's platform currently limits freedom of expression. Sure you can watch any movie you want or read any website but the future will clearly include interactivity with real time VR, AR, 3D, etc... Imagine if Apple invented the holodeck but their app store disallowed sex!??!? It's ridiculous that such a "progressive" company has just a poor position on sex positive apps. I get they don't want to sell them in their store which is why they arguably need to over alternatives.
- scarface74 7y ago
  How much “privacy” would you get from an app that has access to the internet? iOS only allows you to block cellular access to apps.