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I am upset that the human life is not valued I'm not sure how you get "human life is not valued" from this. Even here in the US there is a lot of talk about ho

I am upset that the human life is not valued I'm not sure how you get "human life is not valued" from this. Even here in the US there is a lot of talk about how containment simply isn't going to be successful, and that we might as well accept that this is going to be a widespread pandemic. If containment is going to fail no matter what we do, then pretending otherwise isn't going to help. OTOH, accepting a pandemic, and the possible presence of a new seasonal affliction doesn't mean people don't value human life. There are still people working on (a) vaccine(s) for this, and treatments for it (or researching if existing treatments for similar viruses may help with this). If a vaccine is successfully developed, then we don't necessarily have to accept large numbers of deaths from Covid19 over the long-term. Yes, some people are going to die, but that seems like a tautology anyway to me.

eveningcoffee 7y ago
It looks to have worked in China and it is still possible in many places. It was also possible in my opinion in Italy but it needed hard measures that nobody has been willing to take. It appears paradoxically that China has taken very difficult and expensive measures to save some expendable old people. WHO is also still thinking that containment is possible and is urging countries to take action. Update: Milano area is in lockdown https://www.open.online/2020/03/07/coronavirus-ultime-notizie-7-marzo/ https://www.open.online/2020/03/07/coronavirus-ultime-notizi...
DanBC 7y ago
> I'm not sure how you get "human life is not valued" from this. See for example this retired nurse who says that a pandemic would be a useful way to kill off many old people who tend to cause patient-flow ("bed blocking") in the system. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-news-uk-latest-june-andrews-bed-blockers-hospitals-scottish-parliament-a9384116.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-news-u...
- mindcrime 7y ago
  I'm not saying there are NO examples of people who don't value human life. I was just referring to the context of the story the OP told in the original post. That, to me, didn't seem to contain much support for the "human life isn't valued" sentiment. Beyond that... all sorts of people have different moral/ethical systems. I suppose people who believe in some brands of utilitarianism can adopt the position you cite here, and feel that it's justified.

eveningcoffee 7y ago

It looks to have worked in China and it is still possible in many places. It was also possible in my opinion in Italy but it needed hard measures that nobody has been willing to take. It appears paradoxically that China has taken very difficult and expensive measures to save some expendable old people. WHO is also still thinking that containment is possible and is urging countries to take action. Update: Milano area is in lockdown https://www.open.online/2020/03/07/coronavirus-ultime-notizie-7-marzo/ https://www.open.online/2020/03/07/coronavirus-ultime-notizi...

DanBC 7y ago

> I'm not sure how you get "human life is not valued" from this. See for example this retired nurse who says that a pandemic would be a useful way to kill off many old people who tend to cause patient-flow ("bed blocking") in the system. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-news-uk-latest-june-andrews-bed-blockers-hospitals-scottish-parliament-a9384116.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-news-u...

mindcrime 7y ago
I'm not saying there are NO examples of people who don't value human life. I was just referring to the context of the story the OP told in the original post. That, to me, didn't seem to contain much support for the "human life isn't valued" sentiment. Beyond that... all sorts of people have different moral/ethical systems. I suppose people who believe in some brands of utilitarianism can adopt the position you cite here, and feel that it's justified.