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could also Matrix and Emacs all the things, just sayin’ https://github.com/alphapapa/matrix-client.el https://github.com/alphapapa/matrix-client.el :)

mxuribe 7y ago
My prediction is that at some point in the future, those folks who have historically loved IRC (and there's nothing wrong with that!), will eventually begin to prefer matrix as opposed to, say, slack, mattermost, etc. Not necessarily for tech superiority, but for what I'll call the coziness factor; they'll just feel cozy using some matrix client, as they felt comfy using an ol' irc client. (Yes, yes, i know there are numerous existing irc-bridging apps/services natively supported by matrix protocol. ;-) Disclosure: I used to love irc in the 90s, then stopped using it in the 2000s (aughts?), and now am a superfan of matrix.
- rabidrat 7y ago
  I don't care what chat network I use, as long as I can use weechat.
preek 7y ago
OP here. You've guessed what we're using the last couple of weeks. So far, I like it! It's come a long way. I've tried it a couple of times, but now even the web client works reasonably well. And yes, of course - alphapapa software is always the best option!(; P.S.: Nice nick! After waiting 20 years, I just watched the trilogy (extended version) with my wife last week. It's been a blast and it aged really well.
- memling 7y ago
  > After waiting 20 years, I just watched the trilogy (extended version) with my wife last week. It's been a blast and it aged really well. If you're a fan of makings-of, you'll love the extras on these DVDs. There is some seriously interesting work they did on CGI, AI, motion capture, 3-D scanning, et c.
  - preek 7y ago
    Thank you very much for the pointer! We will certainly have a good time watching the extras^^
vector_spaces 7y ago
I love the idea of a Matrix emacs client, but it doesn't support E2EE and probably won't ever, so it's a non-starter for me.
- hpfr 7y ago
  Luckily, the good folks at Matrix have thought of the client support issue: https://github.com/matrix-org/pantalaimon https://github.com/matrix-org/pantalaimon
  - rrix2 7y ago
    I can confirm that it takes a bit of elbowing around, but you can get matrix-client.el to work with pantalaimon in its current state. extending the client to "know" it needs to talk to localhost rather than the server half is most of the stuff I had to hack on to make it work.
  - gergelypolonkai 7y ago
    I just wrote a post about setting up matrix-client.el with Pantalaimon: https://gergely.polonkai.eu/2020/03/09/chatting-on-matrix-with-e2ee-from-emacs/ https://gergely.polonkai.eu/2020/03/09/chatting-on-matrix-wi...
jasonzemos 7y ago
It's cool to see Matrix work inside emacs but I think the spirit of the OP alludes to putting a little emacs in Matrix too. Composing messages in that band-aid at the bottom of Riot is a great example of a stress-inducing UX. Some venues around Matrix deserve high quality content and it's difficult to encourage that when people write and proof posts through the peephole.

mxuribe 7y ago

My prediction is that at some point in the future, those folks who have historically loved IRC (and there's nothing wrong with that!), will eventually begin to prefer matrix as opposed to, say, slack, mattermost, etc. Not necessarily for tech superiority, but for what I'll call the coziness factor; they'll just feel cozy using some matrix client, as they felt comfy using an ol' irc client. (Yes, yes, i know there are numerous existing irc-bridging apps/services natively supported by matrix protocol. ;-) Disclosure: I used to love irc in the 90s, then stopped using it in the 2000s (aughts?), and now am a superfan of matrix.

rabidrat 7y ago
I don't care what chat network I use, as long as I can use weechat.

preek 7y ago

OP here. You've guessed what we're using the last couple of weeks. So far, I like it! It's come a long way. I've tried it a couple of times, but now even the web client works reasonably well. And yes, of course - alphapapa software is always the best option!(; P.S.: Nice nick! After waiting 20 years, I just watched the trilogy (extended version) with my wife last week. It's been a blast and it aged really well.

memling 7y ago
> After waiting 20 years, I just watched the trilogy (extended version) with my wife last week. It's been a blast and it aged really well. If you're a fan of makings-of, you'll love the extras on these DVDs. There is some seriously interesting work they did on CGI, AI, motion capture, 3-D scanning, et c.
- preek 7y ago
  Thank you very much for the pointer! We will certainly have a good time watching the extras^^

vector_spaces 7y ago

I love the idea of a Matrix emacs client, but it doesn't support E2EE and probably won't ever, so it's a non-starter for me.

hpfr 7y ago
Luckily, the good folks at Matrix have thought of the client support issue: https://github.com/matrix-org/pantalaimon https://github.com/matrix-org/pantalaimon
- rrix2 7y ago
  I can confirm that it takes a bit of elbowing around, but you can get matrix-client.el to work with pantalaimon in its current state. extending the client to "know" it needs to talk to localhost rather than the server half is most of the stuff I had to hack on to make it work.
- gergelypolonkai 7y ago
  I just wrote a post about setting up matrix-client.el with Pantalaimon: https://gergely.polonkai.eu/2020/03/09/chatting-on-matrix-with-e2ee-from-emacs/ https://gergely.polonkai.eu/2020/03/09/chatting-on-matrix-wi...

jasonzemos 7y ago

It's cool to see Matrix work inside emacs but I think the spirit of the OP alludes to putting a little emacs in Matrix too. Composing messages in that band-aid at the bottom of Riot is a great example of a stress-inducing UX. Some venues around Matrix deserve high quality content and it's difficult to encourage that when people write and proof posts through the peephole.