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It sure is a shame that people working on magnetohydrodynamic simulations aren't part of the same conversation as the people writing advertising code in javascr

It sure is a shame that people working on magnetohydrodynamic simulations aren't part of the same conversation as the people writing advertising code in javascript. Imagine all the best practice in scrum and agile that they've missed out on.

glouwbug 7y ago
Well, those guys are building something vastly more complex than advertising software, possibly without agile and scrum, and they deliver high stake working software. Likewise, I've seen agile purists deliver totally broken login screens. The difference, in my opinion, lies in the software's end goal; software you write for a NASA space flight might kill the astronaut you've met at NASA. Software you write for a login screen won't, as it's not as high stake. You're probably going to put on your head phones, pick a YouTube playlist, scroll through JIRA, and meme around on slack. We've evolved thousands of years fighting real physical threats, and we have implemented processes to deal with these physical threats in order to survive. A JIRA ticket for a broken login screen just does not trigger the same brain pattern response as your astronaut friend burning to death during orbital re-entry.
- nmca 7y ago
  jumpira.io : a new Jira integration that provides jump scares and horrific imagery to motivate your subordinates into writing better login pages!
- lordgrenville 7y ago
  I had read the parent comment as sarcastic. Not 100% clear though.
madengr 7y ago
I doubt they have missed out on anything, except riddling their software with bugs. I’m just glad that my engineering software just plain works. The people who write those applications typically come from an engineering background, and they are definitely not brogrammers.
Bayart 7y ago
Are we going to pretend a significant part of top percentile software engineers don't work on advertising or in service of it ?

glouwbug 7y ago

Well, those guys are building something vastly more complex than advertising software, possibly without agile and scrum, and they deliver high stake working software. Likewise, I've seen agile purists deliver totally broken login screens. The difference, in my opinion, lies in the software's end goal; software you write for a NASA space flight might kill the astronaut you've met at NASA. Software you write for a login screen won't, as it's not as high stake. You're probably going to put on your head phones, pick a YouTube playlist, scroll through JIRA, and meme around on slack. We've evolved thousands of years fighting real physical threats, and we have implemented processes to deal with these physical threats in order to survive. A JIRA ticket for a broken login screen just does not trigger the same brain pattern response as your astronaut friend burning to death during orbital re-entry.

nmca 7y ago
jumpira.io : a new Jira integration that provides jump scares and horrific imagery to motivate your subordinates into writing better login pages!
lordgrenville 7y ago
I had read the parent comment as sarcastic. Not 100% clear though.

madengr 7y ago

I doubt they have missed out on anything, except riddling their software with bugs. I’m just glad that my engineering software just plain works. The people who write those applications typically come from an engineering background, and they are definitely not brogrammers.

Bayart 7y ago

Are we going to pretend a significant part of top percentile software engineers don't work on advertising or in service of it ?