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> You never seem to hear about doomsday sort of things in the same vein from Europe’s news outlets. https://www.dw.com/en/doomsday-clock-suggests-the-end-is-cl

> You never seem to hear about doomsday sort of things in the same vein from Europe’s news outlets. https://www.dw.com/en/doomsday-clock-suggests-the-end-is-closer-than-ever/a-52124725 https://www.dw.com/en/doomsday-clock-suggests-the-end-is-clo... Is it me or I see, sometimes regular thrashing of America - which is good if its valid - but I feel like there is some sort of deep bias by Europeans that everything is rosy up in the EU and everything America does is substandard. May be you didn't mean that but I want to mention this bias as part of the HN community as a whole. The pattern largely is: X seems to be an American issue. We never do X in Europe. It comes off as a prejudice filled opinion - I've met many europeans that come off extremely rude against Americans. Tribalism makes people less pleasant and unproductive in making arguments. We should stop doing this and talk about the issue at hand.

neuro_image3 7y ago
Objectively, America is a young culture - often considered adolescent, as compared to European cultures that have existed for many centuries. This youthful exuberance has its benefits but it also has more than its share of idealism, naïveté and general lack of big picture considerations. The survivalist movement is a great example of this.
- munificent 7y ago
  > Objectively, America is a young culture This statement simply makes no sense. Americans didn't show up on the shores of New England with their minds wiped clean. American culture stretches back and builds on all of the cultures of the people who came here (or were here already). It's not any younger than any other places cultures. It may have changed faster because of greater environmental pressure — new physical environment, mixing disparate peoples together — but categorizing it as "adolescent" is simply tribalism. Putting the US down to make yourself feel better about your culture.
  - Haga 7y ago
    It started out with a germ genocide clean slate. Then declared not beeing bogged down in resources limitations loops(science came to the rescue) a virtue of its people, and the unwillingness of the Europeans to engage in exponential daydreaming decadent and worse. City on the downhill of history indeed.
  - DougN7 7y ago
    I’m not sure I agree. We are a young nation. I remember visiting some people in Switzerland and their home was older than our US history. We think 200 years is a very long time, but I don’t think Europeans and Asians have that same view.
- chillacy 7y ago
  That assumes that there's one linear cultural progression and America is simply a younger version of Europe. I don't think that's necessarily true. It could be that America is on a different cultural arc entirely, driven by differing fundamentals (land vs population, history, economy, etc). Americans have thought similarly about Asia for awhile now, the thought being that Japan, then Singapore, then China, would adopt more American beliefs about free speech and freedom of the press. That hasn't quite happened to this day. I don't think it would ever happen unless the fundamentals change. An analogy: The snow fox tells the forest fox that red fur is a liability, and you should have white fur like me to stay safe.
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neuro_image3 7y ago

Objectively, America is a young culture - often considered adolescent, as compared to European cultures that have existed for many centuries. This youthful exuberance has its benefits but it also has more than its share of idealism, naïveté and general lack of big picture considerations. The survivalist movement is a great example of this.

munificent 7y ago
> Objectively, America is a young culture This statement simply makes no sense. Americans didn't show up on the shores of New England with their minds wiped clean. American culture stretches back and builds on all of the cultures of the people who came here (or were here already). It's not any younger than any other places cultures. It may have changed faster because of greater environmental pressure — new physical environment, mixing disparate peoples together — but categorizing it as "adolescent" is simply tribalism. Putting the US down to make yourself feel better about your culture.
- Haga 7y ago
  It started out with a germ genocide clean slate. Then declared not beeing bogged down in resources limitations loops(science came to the rescue) a virtue of its people, and the unwillingness of the Europeans to engage in exponential daydreaming decadent and worse. City on the downhill of history indeed.
- DougN7 7y ago
  I’m not sure I agree. We are a young nation. I remember visiting some people in Switzerland and their home was older than our US history. We think 200 years is a very long time, but I don’t think Europeans and Asians have that same view.
chillacy 7y ago
That assumes that there's one linear cultural progression and America is simply a younger version of Europe. I don't think that's necessarily true. It could be that America is on a different cultural arc entirely, driven by differing fundamentals (land vs population, history, economy, etc). Americans have thought similarly about Asia for awhile now, the thought being that Japan, then Singapore, then China, would adopt more American beliefs about free speech and freedom of the press. That hasn't quite happened to this day. I don't think it would ever happen unless the fundamentals change. An analogy: The snow fox tells the forest fox that red fur is a liability, and you should have white fur like me to stay safe.
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