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being in the camp of "nothing ever good comes from adds", I've never considered Brave. A browser is a remote code execution engine for attacker-controlled cont

being in the camp of "nothing ever good comes from adds", I've never considered Brave. A browser is a remote code execution engine for attacker-controlled content. Looking at their bounties on H1 https://hackerone.com/brave/hacktivity https://hackerone.com/brave/hacktivity they are still solving problems which Mozilla and Google have researched and extinguished long ago. I don't trust Brave to get the security right. Also Ethereum is a scam and doesn't scale but that's a whole other topic. As for their claims around paying content generators with their fake monopoly money, this article was absolutely on point.

chrisco255 7y ago
Brave is Chromium-based...it's literally a fork of the core source code for Chrome, so I don't think it would be any more insecure than that. And with Microsoft forking Chromium for Edge, Chromium should continue to get top-notch support on that front. Ethereum is not a scam. It has evolved a great deal over the past 6 years, and thanks to zero-knowledge proofs, ETH does scale now (up to 2300 transactions a second, without any need for further upgrades...see Loopring for an in-production implementation of this tech https://loopring.org/#/ https://loopring.org/#/), so you should update your knowledge on the subject. It's not fake money. It's getting paid to view ads. This is not even a new idea. I used to use an internet service back in the 90s that was free as long as they could spam me with ads (NetZero). Facebook and Google make hundreds of billions of dollars off of ads, do you really think there's no room in that to give back to consumers of ads some portion of the revenue? The only reason they don't is because their duopoly over internet advertising is pretty stable right now.
- mjd 7y ago
  > It's not fake money. It's getting paid to view ads. It's getting paid with fake money to view ads.
  - staticvoidmaine 7y ago
    Given that it’s convertible into USD and other “real” currencies, how do you expect this line of reasoning to hold?
    - crimsonalucard 7y ago
      Did you read the article? Inventing a currency out of thin air so they can mint as many dollars as they want and you and other geniuses can form a secondary market where all of you can trade it is the genius of brave and the point of this article. Instead of paying you, they make their own currency and pay you. You can make some money off of it in the secondary market because some other idiot thinks it's worth actual money.
      - Proziam 7y ago
        So, cutting through your negativity, it's worth money? Whether or not you like it is one thing, but it inarguably has a monetary value.
        crimsonalucard 7y ago
        Yeah it is worth money. Similar to how heroin is worth money. You know what else inarguably has monetary value? A perfect one to one copy of an american 100 dollar bill. This absolutely has monetary value and therefore you should buy it, just like how you should buy crypto.
        ikt 7y ago
        > Yeah it is worth money. Similar to how heroin is worth money. I'm not sure how you integrate a distributed heroin based system into a browser.
        crimsonalucard 7y ago
        No buddy this is called an analogy. Meaning some things are similar but other things are not. Through average human intuition and intelligence you can derive that I'm not comparing the physical nature of heroin to the abstract nature of crypto. What I am comparing is the illegitimacy of heroin to the illegitimacy of the crypto issued by Brave. I am sorry that you were incapable of deducing this. But now with this simple explanation of the nature of an analogy you get it!
Operyl 7y ago
To be fair to them, I think a good portion of those bugs were back when they were an Electron app. These days they’re a full on fork of Chromium, and no longer are easily subjected to a lot of those potential mistakes.
dylkil 7y ago
>Ethereum is a scam and doesn't scale baseless
- TylerE 7y ago
  It's proof of work based crypto, so it doesn't scale. Facts.
  - dylkil 7y ago
    Ethereum will move to proof of stake phase 0 this year
    - TylerE 7y ago
      Believe it when I see it. Crypto is a wasteland of broken promises and scams.
donatj 7y ago
> nothing ever good comes from adds That's a weird and provably false belief. I have found many goods and services that have vastly improved my life via ads. I have a beautiful very large framed print of a schematic of the ship from The Life Aquatic in my office I admire several times a day I bought from a Facebook ad. It is something I likely never would have searched for myself but something that has vastly improved my general mood. Any time I'm frustrated, I glance up at the details of the ship. It helps me find center. My life is improved, through advertising.
soared 7y ago
advertising the benefits of seatbelts has saved thousands of lives.

chrisco255 7y ago

Brave is Chromium-based...it's literally a fork of the core source code for Chrome, so I don't think it would be any more insecure than that. And with Microsoft forking Chromium for Edge, Chromium should continue to get top-notch support on that front. Ethereum is not a scam. It has evolved a great deal over the past 6 years, and thanks to zero-knowledge proofs, ETH does scale now (up to 2300 transactions a second, without any need for further upgrades...see Loopring for an in-production implementation of this tech https://loopring.org/#/ https://loopring.org/#/), so you should update your knowledge on the subject. It's not fake money. It's getting paid to view ads. This is not even a new idea. I used to use an internet service back in the 90s that was free as long as they could spam me with ads (NetZero). Facebook and Google make hundreds of billions of dollars off of ads, do you really think there's no room in that to give back to consumers of ads some portion of the revenue? The only reason they don't is because their duopoly over internet advertising is pretty stable right now.

mjd 7y ago
> It's not fake money. It's getting paid to view ads. It's getting paid with fake money to view ads.
- staticvoidmaine 7y ago
  Given that it’s convertible into USD and other “real” currencies, how do you expect this line of reasoning to hold?
  - crimsonalucard 7y ago
    Did you read the article? Inventing a currency out of thin air so they can mint as many dollars as they want and you and other geniuses can form a secondary market where all of you can trade it is the genius of brave and the point of this article. Instead of paying you, they make their own currency and pay you. You can make some money off of it in the secondary market because some other idiot thinks it's worth actual money.
    - Proziam 7y ago
      So, cutting through your negativity, it's worth money? Whether or not you like it is one thing, but it inarguably has a monetary value.
      - crimsonalucard 7y ago
        Yeah it is worth money. Similar to how heroin is worth money. You know what else inarguably has monetary value? A perfect one to one copy of an american 100 dollar bill. This absolutely has monetary value and therefore you should buy it, just like how you should buy crypto.
        ikt 7y ago
        > Yeah it is worth money. Similar to how heroin is worth money. I'm not sure how you integrate a distributed heroin based system into a browser.
        crimsonalucard 7y ago
        No buddy this is called an analogy. Meaning some things are similar but other things are not. Through average human intuition and intelligence you can derive that I'm not comparing the physical nature of heroin to the abstract nature of crypto. What I am comparing is the illegitimacy of heroin to the illegitimacy of the crypto issued by Brave. I am sorry that you were incapable of deducing this. But now with this simple explanation of the nature of an analogy you get it!

Operyl 7y ago

To be fair to them, I think a good portion of those bugs were back when they were an Electron app. These days they’re a full on fork of Chromium, and no longer are easily subjected to a lot of those potential mistakes.

dylkil 7y ago

>Ethereum is a scam and doesn't scale baseless

TylerE 7y ago
It's proof of work based crypto, so it doesn't scale. Facts.
- dylkil 7y ago
  Ethereum will move to proof of stake phase 0 this year
  - TylerE 7y ago
    Believe it when I see it. Crypto is a wasteland of broken promises and scams.

donatj 7y ago

> nothing ever good comes from adds That's a weird and provably false belief. I have found many goods and services that have vastly improved my life via ads. I have a beautiful very large framed print of a schematic of the ship from The Life Aquatic in my office I admire several times a day I bought from a Facebook ad. It is something I likely never would have searched for myself but something that has vastly improved my general mood. Any time I'm frustrated, I glance up at the details of the ship. It helps me find center. My life is improved, through advertising.

soared 7y ago

advertising the benefits of seatbelts has saved thousands of lives.