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This is clearly not true. If it were an effective means of getting accurate information, then there would be moral arguments for using it in some situations, t
by keithlfrost 7y ago
This is clearly not true. If it were an effective means of getting accurate information, then there would be moral arguments for using it in some situations, to prevent even worse events (An imminent nuclear attack? Biological weapons attack? Whatever horrific scenarios you care to imagine) from coming to pass.
- mirimir 7y agoSure, one could argue that. My only point was that morality isn't necessarily related to effectiveness. But some moral positions could of course depend on effectiveness.
- cheerlessbog 7y agoI don't believe in these mathematical greater evil arguments. I assume you would not kill a baby even if it was guaranteed to prevent a plane crash killing a hundred people. One should not make relativistic moral calculations with fundamentally unacceptable acts.
- rhn_mk1 7y agoYou don't believe it, because you consider some acts fundamentally unacceptable, in your moral framework. That doesn't have any bearing on other people's moral frameworks, in which relativistic calculations may be the right thing to do.
- cheerlessbog 7y agoYour point seems to be : people have different moral frameworks. Mine differs to some others. This seems self evident.
- rhn_mk1 7y agoThat's exactly right. In this light, what one should and shouldn't according to a single person (what your last post was about) doesn't have any meaning when discussing what many individuals could value: that's on a higher meta level. It becomes at best a statement of opinion, and at worst it can be taken as dismissive of the values of others.
- cheerlessbog 7y agoCorrect - its a statement of opinion. Yes, I think most of us are dismissive of some values of some others and that's OK.
- rhn_mk1 7y ago> Yes, I think most of us are dismissive of some values of some others and that's OK. I don't believe this is a very useful property of a conversation which is about trying to understand how the world squares with opinions that people can hold.