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I'm going through Sia's website now. It seems this article is meant to bolster the claim on their website which states "When the Sia network is fully optimized,

I'm going through Sia's website now. It seems this article is meant to bolster the claim on their website which states "When the Sia network is fully optimized, pricing will fall somewhere around $2/TB/month." [1] Call me skeptical but it seems that they aren't committing to building out this infrastructure themselves or providing a specific amount of storage at this pricing. They seem to be outlining a potential infrastructure that some enterprising individual (or corporation) could use to provide storage at that price to "renters" within their marketplace. I guess I'll just wait until someone puts their money where their mouth is. Given that this is a marketplace, the fact that a theoretical setup could be built to provide some service doesn't necessarily guarantee it will be built. 1. https://support.sia.tech/article/thvymhf1ff-about-renting https://support.sia.tech/article/thvymhf1ff-about-renting

tastroder 7y ago
Since you're bringing up the website... I don't get this marketing strategy. The cryptocurrency angle is just as off putting as telling me as a potential customer that my data will be stored on janky servers in unreliable places, no matter if the uptime is the same. OP even claims they have reliability and experience I'd consider but those aspects sure send signals that make me not want to deal with that stack. Just looking at the website for Sia I see a bunch of fluffy marketing stuff, fair enough, that's normal these days. But where is the selling point? https://sia.tech/technology https://sia.tech/technology tells me my data is stored securely and in a redundant manner, great, just like any storage provider. That is followed by "Renters And Hosts Pay With Siacoin" and talks about payment channels, which links to a wikipedia article and not something that tells me how I would even pay them, not to even talk about how much (I saw the calculator thingy on my way to that site, the messaging is still weird). The "Getting started" call to action is a similar experience, a bunch of downloads, cool - I don't even know if you're right for me yet. I'm five levels deep into the "Getting started guide" linked there and so far found that I'd apparently have to deal with weird crypto exchanges to pay somebody for this, plus I couldn't use most of my pretty standard tooling anymore (at least not without involving one of those proxy things on the getting started page that cover a few use cases, some of which seem to be operated by others?).
ericflo 7y ago
It's live right now though, the community has deployed the infrastructure [1] and the pricing is approximately what they claim [2]. 1. https://siastats.info/hosts_network https://siastats.info/hosts_network 2. https://siastats.info/storage_pricing https://siastats.info/storage_pricing
- ADefenestrator 7y ago
  That's the price being paid for the storage, but is it actually covering the cost of providing that storage? Or is it just 100-300 people who thought "Huh, neat, I'll toss a host online and see how it goes" ? I'd lean towards the latter and assume those storage costs are heavily subsidized by a few people satisfying curiosity.

tastroder 7y ago

Since you're bringing up the website... I don't get this marketing strategy. The cryptocurrency angle is just as off putting as telling me as a potential customer that my data will be stored on janky servers in unreliable places, no matter if the uptime is the same. OP even claims they have reliability and experience I'd consider but those aspects sure send signals that make me not want to deal with that stack. Just looking at the website for Sia I see a bunch of fluffy marketing stuff, fair enough, that's normal these days. But where is the selling point? https://sia.tech/technology https://sia.tech/technology tells me my data is stored securely and in a redundant manner, great, just like any storage provider. That is followed by "Renters And Hosts Pay With Siacoin" and talks about payment channels, which links to a wikipedia article and not something that tells me how I would even pay them, not to even talk about how much (I saw the calculator thingy on my way to that site, the messaging is still weird). The "Getting started" call to action is a similar experience, a bunch of downloads, cool - I don't even know if you're right for me yet. I'm five levels deep into the "Getting started guide" linked there and so far found that I'd apparently have to deal with weird crypto exchanges to pay somebody for this, plus I couldn't use most of my pretty standard tooling anymore (at least not without involving one of those proxy things on the getting started page that cover a few use cases, some of which seem to be operated by others?).

ericflo 7y ago

It's live right now though, the community has deployed the infrastructure [1] and the pricing is approximately what they claim [2]. 1. https://siastats.info/hosts_network https://siastats.info/hosts_network 2. https://siastats.info/storage_pricing https://siastats.info/storage_pricing

ADefenestrator 7y ago
That's the price being paid for the storage, but is it actually covering the cost of providing that storage? Or is it just 100-300 people who thought "Huh, neat, I'll toss a host online and see how it goes" ? I'd lean towards the latter and assume those storage costs are heavily subsidized by a few people satisfying curiosity.