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I suppose amusement is arbitrary. This comment chain started with: "Having been at a company that was starting to move things to Kubernetes, when it had absolu

I suppose amusement is arbitrary. This comment chain started with: "Having been at a company that was starting to move things to Kubernetes, when it had absolutely no reason to, I can say that it was being done because: 1) the developers wanted to be able to say they knew how to use Kubernetes... " Someone responded by saying "For those companies i recommend rancher... It's kubernetes under the hood but a lot is stuff is abstracted away.." So if you dont need Kubernetes, and are just using it to learn Kubernetes, you should throw an additional tool on top of Kubernetes, that abstracts away Kubernetes? I'm sorry, that is amusing to me. Some abstractions are necessary. Some aren't.

root_axis 7y ago
I said the judgement is arbitrary, not the amusement. > Some abstractions are necessary. Some aren't. It just seems bizarre to me that you can suggest that the abstraction is unnecessary when you also claim to have never used the tool. What makes you think it's unnecessary?
- colecut 7y ago
  1. I didn't judge anything. I said I was amused. You inferred judgement. 2. I didn't say it wasn't necessary. The poster of the parent comment did. I didn't work there, I don't know what was necessary. But it's safe to say, if you don't need Kubernetes (which the parent poster said, not me), then you don't need something to abstract Kubernetes (Rancher)... And also, if I did know the environment, and the environment was incredibly simple, I don't think it's necessary for me to have Kubernetes experience to determine that it is not necessary... Sometimes a couple of VMs in different zones behind a load balancer is just fine... And if you don't agree, you probably also think a static landing page requires React to be "done properly." How's that for inferring things you didn't say? I've never used React either, I guess I'll never know if I really need it for that landing page!

root_axis 7y ago

I said the judgement is arbitrary, not the amusement. > Some abstractions are necessary. Some aren't. It just seems bizarre to me that you can suggest that the abstraction is unnecessary when you also claim to have never used the tool. What makes you think it's unnecessary?

colecut 7y ago
1. I didn't judge anything. I said I was amused. You inferred judgement. 2. I didn't say it wasn't necessary. The poster of the parent comment did. I didn't work there, I don't know what was necessary. But it's safe to say, if you don't need Kubernetes (which the parent poster said, not me), then you don't need something to abstract Kubernetes (Rancher)... And also, if I did know the environment, and the environment was incredibly simple, I don't think it's necessary for me to have Kubernetes experience to determine that it is not necessary... Sometimes a couple of VMs in different zones behind a load balancer is just fine... And if you don't agree, you probably also think a static landing page requires React to be "done properly." How's that for inferring things you didn't say? I've never used React either, I guess I'll never know if I really need it for that landing page!