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"They generally know your location via tower triangulation." Correct, but to clarify - they know your SIM cards location. In my case this correlates to a corp

by rsync 7y ago

"They generally know your location via tower triangulation." Correct, but to clarify - they know your SIM cards location. In my case this correlates to a corp name and no actual personal name (mine or otherwise). "Also, I wouldn't be surprised if in the near future, KYC is required to buy any SIM that connects to the network." I suspect you are correct and I think this is already de facto practice for a consumer purchasing mobile phone service in the United States. I suspect, however, that an EIN and a corp name will continue to allow SIM provisioning without associated PII. Something to consider: we are promised many, many more 5G SIM cards on the network than there are people on the planet. Most of those SIMs will be provisioned by corporate entities and, therefore, the ability to procure and deploy SIMs with no PII will persist ...

yborg 7y ago
This is naive. Via triangulation they know your approximate location, and there are likely cameras with facial recognition and/or license plate readers in the area that can be used to correlate with arrival/departure to get your identity. Unless every single thing you use is in somebody else's name and you wear some kind of disguise everywhere it is already possible to bypass anonymity in most urban areas. If someone isn't doing it already someone will be soon, there's a lot of money at stake.
thu2111 7y ago
No it won't. Anonymous SIMs were already wiped out in large areas of the world. The way KYC works is you need to know the "beneficial owner" i.e. ultimate owner of an asset. The bazillions of 5G sims we're promised will all be tied to a strongly verified corporate identity and to get on a network will require you to present ID if an individual, or do corp KYC if a firm (which will in turn require the heads of the company to do personal KYC to establish beneficial ownership information). Remember, this isn't even new for many countries.

by rsync 7y ago

yborg 7y ago

This is naive. Via triangulation they know your approximate location, and there are likely cameras with facial recognition and/or license plate readers in the area that can be used to correlate with arrival/departure to get your identity. Unless every single thing you use is in somebody else's name and you wear some kind of disguise everywhere it is already possible to bypass anonymity in most urban areas. If someone isn't doing it already someone will be soon, there's a lot of money at stake.

thu2111 7y ago

No it won't. Anonymous SIMs were already wiped out in large areas of the world. The way KYC works is you need to know the "beneficial owner" i.e. ultimate owner of an asset. The bazillions of 5G sims we're promised will all be tied to a strongly verified corporate identity and to get on a network will require you to present ID if an individual, or do corp KYC if a firm (which will in turn require the heads of the company to do personal KYC to establish beneficial ownership information). Remember, this isn't even new for many countries.