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I don't see any evidence to support the assertion unfortunately :) Also, the huge difference between emotional/perceptive aggression, and actual aggression. T

by jariel 7y ago

I don't see any evidence to support the assertion unfortunately :) Also, the huge difference between emotional/perceptive aggression, and actual aggression. There are loud, crude people who like to push for a fair deal, or who are not aggressive terms. There are 'nice', cunning manipulative people who seek excessive terms. There are actually truly nice people, who push for assertive terms, not realising how far they are going. And of course, there's mostly tons of misinterpretations: people who have totally different needs, perspective, expectations with respect to how to go about a situation. A founder seeing aggression might actually be an investor taking a perfectly normative demand. But yes, I've seen utter stupidity in deal making. Relationships do matter, and you need a working agreement with whoever you're working with, investors included.

seventytwo 7y ago
I think you’re missing the point. Make “rising tide lifts all boats” deals. Here, you’re entering in a deal to create additional value to the world. Don’t make deals with a zero-sum outlook. Here, you’re entering into a deal for, at best, a transfer of existing value within the world.
- munificent 7y ago
  That is the point of the article, yes. But it doesn't offer evidence that that is a financially better strategy. It is self-evidently morally better, of course. And it may be financially better too. But the article just flatly claims it in a number of single-sentence paragraphs without communicating any real data.
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago
  From The Godfather Part II: "Hyman Roth always makes money for his partners. One by one, our old friends are gone. Death, natural or not, prison, deported. Hyman Roth is the only one left, because he always made money for his partners."
eloisant 7y ago
Indeed: "So many people are straight assholes in business. Especially the more you climb the ladder." This sentence alone contradicts the title...
- dumbfoundded 7y ago
  Not necessarily, but good point. I think many people become assholes once they get anywhere to protect what they have. The risk equation flips once you've "made it". People optimize for minimizing loss rather than maximizing for expected value. If you're going for maximizing ev, I believe my thoughts hold true.

by jariel 7y ago

seventytwo 7y ago

I think you’re missing the point. Make “rising tide lifts all boats” deals. Here, you’re entering in a deal to create additional value to the world. Don’t make deals with a zero-sum outlook. Here, you’re entering into a deal for, at best, a transfer of existing value within the world.

munificent 7y ago
That is the point of the article, yes. But it doesn't offer evidence that that is a financially better strategy. It is self-evidently morally better, of course. And it may be financially better too. But the article just flatly claims it in a number of single-sentence paragraphs without communicating any real data.
AnimalMuppet 7y ago
From The Godfather Part II: "Hyman Roth always makes money for his partners. One by one, our old friends are gone. Death, natural or not, prison, deported. Hyman Roth is the only one left, because he always made money for his partners."

eloisant 7y ago

Indeed: "So many people are straight assholes in business. Especially the more you climb the ladder." This sentence alone contradicts the title...

dumbfoundded 7y ago
Not necessarily, but good point. I think many people become assholes once they get anywhere to protect what they have. The risk equation flips once you've "made it". People optimize for minimizing loss rather than maximizing for expected value. If you're going for maximizing ev, I believe my thoughts hold true.