Yeah, with the benefit of hindsight, it's undoubtably true that the Hubei provincial government fucked up, nobody is denying that. But every other provincial go

Yeah, with the benefit of hindsight, it's undoubtably true that the Hubei provincial government fucked up, nobody is denying that. But every other provincial government in China was facing the same situation other national governments were facing, they had a stream of Hubei residents filtering through their communities, causing community spread and lighting a ticking time bomb. But every one of the provincial governments got their situation under control with the political backing of the central government while nations outside of China clearly failed to get it under control because they didn't have the will to react so harshly. This is strong evidence that any nation that chooses to clamp down as hard as the Chinese can get it under control with something approaching a 100% probability. Whether it's possible lighter weight mechanisms can still get it under control is an open question but we at least have the upper limit of how much you need to shut down your country to kill COVID 19.