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Next time you're interacting with the police, you might want to use the OpenWatch recorder to record the interaction: http://www.openwatch.net http://www.openw

by Mizza 16y ago

Next time you're interacting with the police, you might want to use the OpenWatch recorder to record the interaction: http://www.openwatch.net http://www.openwatch.net

Estragon 16y ago
This looks cool, but it really needs an option for uploading in real time, in case the device gets confiscated.
PakG1 16y ago
I can't remember specifically the example, but there was a recent case where someone recorded the conversation with a police officer without the police officer's knowledge or consent. This ended up getting the person in a lot more hot water than the original issue. If someone could provide specifics, would be appreciated.
- true_religion 16y ago
  Usually you have to at least tell someone they are being recorded, but they don't have to consent to it.
  - metageek 16y ago
    That's the law in Massachusetts, but the cops don't believe it.
    - iamdave 16y ago
      They usually don't have to believe what the law is when many citizens will easily bend at the sight of officer intimidation because they don't actually know the law. Which is a shame.
    - losvedir 16y ago
      Really? All I can find[1] seems to indicate all parties need to consent: "4. The term 'interception' means to secretly hear, secretly record, or aid another to secretly hear or secretly record the contents of any wire or oral communication through the use of any intercepting device by any person other than a person given prior authority by all parties to such communication..." [1] http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/Chapter272/Section99 http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/...
      - metageek 16y ago
        If you tell them you're doing it, it's not secret.
        losvedir 16y ago
        What about the "given prior authority by all parties" part?
        metageek 16y ago
        Read it again. That's an exception for the "no secret recording rule"; it's not an extra requirement.
  - cheald 16y ago
    Only in two-party states. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_recording_laws#Two-party_notification_states http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_recording_laws#Two-pa... In any other state, if you (as the recorder) are aware that you are being recorded (ie, you're recording your own conversation with someone else), it's legal.
- georgieporgie 16y ago
  http://gizmodo.com/#!5553765/are-cameras-the-new-guns http://gizmodo.com/#!5553765/are-cameras-the-new-guns In at least three states, it is now illegal to record any on-duty police officer. also Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland are among the 12 states in which all parties must consent for a recording to be legal unless, as with TV news crews, it is obvious to all that recording is underway. Edit: to my knowledge, these are based on outdated wiretapping laws intended for telephone conversations.

by Mizza 16y ago

Next time you're interacting with the police, you might want to use the OpenWatch recorder to record the interaction: http://www.openwatch.net http://www.openwatch.net

Estragon 16y ago

This looks cool, but it really needs an option for uploading in real time, in case the device gets confiscated.

PakG1 16y ago

I can't remember specifically the example, but there was a recent case where someone recorded the conversation with a police officer without the police officer's knowledge or consent. This ended up getting the person in a lot more hot water than the original issue. If someone could provide specifics, would be appreciated.

true_religion 16y ago
Usually you have to at least tell someone they are being recorded, but they don't have to consent to it.
- metageek 16y ago
  That's the law in Massachusetts, but the cops don't believe it.
  - iamdave 16y ago
    They usually don't have to believe what the law is when many citizens will easily bend at the sight of officer intimidation because they don't actually know the law. Which is a shame.
  - losvedir 16y ago
    Really? All I can find[1] seems to indicate all parties need to consent: "4. The term 'interception' means to secretly hear, secretly record, or aid another to secretly hear or secretly record the contents of any wire or oral communication through the use of any intercepting device by any person other than a person given prior authority by all parties to such communication..." [1] http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/Chapter272/Section99 http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/...
    - metageek 16y ago
      If you tell them you're doing it, it's not secret.
      - losvedir 16y ago
        What about the "given prior authority by all parties" part?
        metageek 16y ago
        Read it again. That's an exception for the "no secret recording rule"; it's not an extra requirement.
- cheald 16y ago
  Only in two-party states. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_recording_laws#Two-party_notification_states http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_recording_laws#Two-pa... In any other state, if you (as the recorder) are aware that you are being recorded (ie, you're recording your own conversation with someone else), it's legal.
georgieporgie 16y ago
http://gizmodo.com/#!5553765/are-cameras-the-new-guns http://gizmodo.com/#!5553765/are-cameras-the-new-guns In at least three states, it is now illegal to record any on-duty police officer. also Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland are among the 12 states in which all parties must consent for a recording to be legal unless, as with TV news crews, it is obvious to all that recording is underway. Edit: to my knowledge, these are based on outdated wiretapping laws intended for telephone conversations.