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Amazon launches Prime instant videos, unlimited streaming for Prime subscribers

118 points by BvS 16y ago

Tichy 16y ago
Of course, US only. I get that the whole system of rights to movies (an music) is a mess. Could we not reset the system at least for NEW movies, and give them somehow unified world wide distribution rights?
- pavel_lishin 16y ago
  But that would only profit the consumers!
  - tomjen3 16y ago
    Whomever makes an iTunes for movies but especially shows that I can pay for and download as soon as they are available on cable and view on my computer is going to get my money. Unfortunately iTunes in Denmark only has music, so thats a no go (and I don't care to be 2 seasons behind on my favorite shows anyway). I am happy to put money where my mouth is, but nobody is willing to sell to me on these terms.
  - Tichy 16y ago
    There is always BitTorrent, so it seemes it would benefit the film owners as well to make them available everywhere as soon as possible. Convenience and even morals can beat BitTorrent, but only if it is reasonable. In fact, some video streaming services now seem to be available in Germany. But guess what: they require some dedicated software to be able to play the movies. I am not yet sure I really want that. Also, I am not sure my TV can deal with that (whereas it can probably play torrent movies out of the box). (I think iTunes might have some movies in Germany, too, but last time I checked the selection was not great and highly overpriced).
- chaz 16y ago
  Unfortunately, no. Studios still need to sell rights to local distributors that can do all of the local marketing (TV, print, billboards). The distributors want exclusivity in their country to ensure that their marketing dollars (TV, print, billboard) are recouped. If customers can simply get a Netflix membership after hearing about it through their local advertising, the distributor will lose money on their investment.
  - Tichy 16y ago
    I suppose the local distributors could simply become affiliates of Netflix and Amazon.
mikecarlucci 16y ago
That could be a powerful offering if Amazon can boost the library a bit. $89 per year for Amazon Prime with 2 day shipping and streaming is a few bucks cheaper than a year of Netflix streaming only (7.99*12=95.88) and potentially much more valuable. For someone who shops at Amazon a lot, only uses streaming a little and doesn't have a DVD add-on, this could be huge. Although, when MP3s arrived at Amazon most people stuck with iTunes. Netflix might have enough brand recognition to prevent more than a handful from switching unless Amazon launches a serious campaign. Edit: The other nifty part is Amazon offers video on demand for free with some DVD/Blu-ray purchases. Sending those along speedily plus instant watch also helps people choose Amazon over the local Target, Best Buy etc.
- poet 16y ago
  Agreed. I'm canceling my Netflix subscription the second Amazon increases their selection. EDIT: And holy shit. A video player that works beautifully and I don't have to install anything. I get a nice big message about installing Silverlight when I browse Netflix with Chrome. Although after further experimentation there are a bunch of things that annoy me off the bat. First, pressing escape while in full screen stops the movie, instead of just exiting fullscreen. Also, exiting fullscreen appears to close GChat windows that I have popped out of my browser. Obviously still some kinks to work out :P
  - burgerbrain 16y ago
    Note to other linux users, their video player works brilliantly in linux despite being flash. Waaay better than youtube's fullscreen even. After fullscreening it, I can't even tell it's not mplayer. Very obviously an improvement from the shit netflix situation ;) Of course your milage may vary, but you can test it out with a free clip first.
    - 2mur 16y ago
      That's good to know about flash. One of the reasons that I am moving to using a mac is the crappy experience with flash in Ubuntu. I'm tired of it.
ryandvm 16y ago
So... are they anticipated to follow this up with the other half of the Netflix-style service? You know, renting movies that people actually want to watch.
- mkinsella 16y ago
  I assume they'll be pushing for more client apps first: Xbox 360, PS3, etc.
carson 16y ago
It is interesting that they say there are 5000 titles but the "Prime Eligible" search only returns 1,669 Results. Hopefully the selection will grow.
- pitdesi 16y ago
  My search returned 2,153 results. They must be working on it.
  - berberich 16y ago
    Looks like it's 2,153 movies (1,669) + TV shows (484).
    - CrazedGeek 16y ago
      Maybe they're counting each episode of each TV show individually?
pitdesi 16y ago
Link to Amazon site: http://www.amazon.com/Video-On-Demand/b?ie=UTF8&node=16261631 http://www.amazon.com/Video-On-Demand/b?ie=UTF8&node=162...
vault_ 16y ago
As a college student using a free prime subscription, it's kind of lame that it's paid only (I understand their reasoning though). My only other concern is how they're delivering the videos. Is it just flash? Or is it some crazy Silverlight+DRM thing like netflix? If it's the former they could attract some Linux users who can't use netflix.
- ojbyrne 16y ago
  Seems to be just flash.
- berberich 16y ago
  It's just Flash, like their existing purchase/rental videos.
- jim_h 16y ago
  The one benefit of Silverlight is that it's not as cpu intensive as Flash. It's nice because you can play it on an older pc/laptop. DRM isn't a big concern since you're not buying the movies. It is different from buying and downloading songs. You weren't expecting them to let you keep the movies, right?
  - baddox 16y ago
    DRM is still a big concern if your HTPC runs Linux and they don't provide a client that works with Linux.
    - jim_h 16y ago
      There's moonlight, which is a Silverlight alternative for linux. I just installed it for Ubuntu. Painless to install. edit: You guys are right. Netflix doesn't work under linux. I just tried it under Ubuntu. No go. It's too bad since Silverlight does use less power and Netflix has impressed me so far.
      - drivebyacct2 16y ago
adestefan 16y ago
This is only for paid prime accounts. With my free Amazon Mom prime account I just get a button to upgrade to the paid account. I have about a years worth of free prime built up from buying diapers.
- jim_h 16y ago
  It seems like it's also for NEW trial accounts. "Start your one month free trial of Amazon Prime now and begin enjoying the benefits of free two-day shipping and unlimited instant streaming of movies and TV shows today." - amazon.com
growt 16y ago
can someone please write a little app that compares which movies are available on netflix, amazon prime or both?
orky56 16y ago
So is Amazon hoping to topple Netflix with this? I'm curious to find out if devices that support Amazon Instant Video will also have this service automatically. That would be a game changer for sure. Amazon clearly has the user and advertising base for this sort of option. However, would I really put customers that want quick shipping and want streaming video in the same bucket? I guess the only similarity is wanting a premium service at a subscription.
- scottkduncan 16y ago
  I think this is just a toe-dip into streaming video service rather than a full-on attempt to topple Netflix at this point. Prime subscribers give Amazon a ready-made, loyal group of beta-testers and I imagine they'll be paying close attention to the data that comes out of this offering. I see similarities between this and the way they incrementally roll out new AWS features - they don't always feel the need to make a massive splash and they leave space to incorporate user feedback before betting the farm on a new service.
  - jonknee 16y ago
    Amazon has been doing streaming for a while (September 2006), this isn't dipping their toe in the space. They actually beat Netflix to it (January 2007). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Video_on_Demand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Video_on_Demand http://netflix.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=201 http://netflix.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=201
    - jmathai 16y ago
      There have been lots of players in the pay-per-play streaming business for some time. Netflix was the first one to emerge with a good subscription service.
- jonknee 16y ago
  According to Jeff Bezos' note on Amazon's homepage, it is indeed compatible with Amazon Instant Video devices (over 200 and counting these days). Apparently TiVo is an exception currently, but that's the only note: http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ontv/ontv http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ontv/ontv
jim_h 16y ago
I wonder if Amazon Prime instant videos will also work for shared accounts. Prime allows for sharing the account with 4 family members. Will instant videos work for family members too? Netflix allows 7(?) devices that can be linked to an account. Some people also share accounts and it seems to work for them.
- bowmande 16y ago
  It would appear so. Our Prime account was started by my wife and it is shared with my amazon account, and I am able to watch Amazon Prime videos.
  - jim_h 16y ago
    Thanks for the confirmation.
- CrazedGeek 16y ago
  Sadly, I share a Prime account with my parents, and it's giving me the "upgrade to full Prime" message. Odd.
  - jim_h 16y ago
    That is odd. Is the account trial or paid?
    - CrazedGeek 16y ago
      Paid. It's linked to my dad's account, which is the main Prime account.
  - Splines 16y ago
    I get that too - my wife is the primary prime account holder, and I'm invited under her amazon account. I'm not surprised that I can't get streaming from my account, seeing as my membership is technically free.
jbellis 16y ago
One very interesting aspect that I haven't seen mentioned yet is that Netflix does a LOT on AWS. I wonder if seeing their infrastructure provider start competing more directly with them, makes them rethink that.
- diego 16y ago
  No question they are thinking about it. I went to a meetup last week in which they explained how moving to the cloud was extremely important to them, and how they transitioned to SimpleDB and Cassandra. http://www.meetup.com/cloudcomputing/events/16395288/ http://www.meetup.com/cloudcomputing/events/16395288/ (link to paper about their experience). I have both Netflix and Amazon Prime and would probably drop Netflix if Amazon had a better selection. If most users are like me, this means that Netflix has to increase their catalog, which has both technical and licensing implications. On the technical side it's caching and long-tail inefficiencies which will increase their infrastructure costs. If they are still using AWS (the Mercedes Benz of cloud hosting), I'm sure it's because their margins are high. Given their size they could get a much better deal with another provider.
  - deleted 16y ago
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- thematt 16y ago
  Netflix is in a difficult position I think. Their infrastructure is becoming commoditized, much of their content is also being licensed to their competitors and their delivery mechanism is no longer unique. What's left for them to differentiate themselves from the competition? It seems like their only choice is to pay steeper and steeper prices to get content that nobody else has in order to justify their value to subscribers.
  - anonymous246 16y ago
    Their recommendation engine is a key strength. I LOVE it. Second, at <$10/mo, the cost is not high enough to make bother with switching. I would rather pay $10/mo have the best streaming experience than pay $6/mo have a second-rate streaming experience. I expect Netflix to come out on top in this battle. Obviously, I'm rooting for them (I dislike companies which squeeze competitors through loss leaders).
jasonkester 16y ago
Same story, different provider: We have detected that you are not located within the US. Due to licensing restrictions Amazon Instant Video customers must be located in the United States when viewing videos online If they can get this to follow me around the world, I'm there. Until then there are a lot of us still without a viable way to watch movies from the internet. (no legal way, that is.)
- dotBen 16y ago
  Honestly, the best thing to do is own a US based VPS (esp a lowendbox - google it) and proxy your connection when abroad. It's worth proxying your connection securely via SSH/OpenVPN when you are on open wifi anyway. A cheap $5/month VPS is something every hacker should have in their toolkit.
  - dhess 16y ago
    Wow, lowendbox is a fantastic resource! I've been looking for a cheap UK VPN endpoint for years, and lowendbox has plenty of options. Thanks for the link.
    - dotBen 16y ago
      Just be careful with anything that looks "too good to be true", unless you are not going to be adversely effected if the provider disappears suddenly (eg you are proxying rather than web serving). Don't pay for a year upfront unless we're talking <$10 A lot of these 'companies' are literally run by 15 year olds - which is fine (I used to run a web host way back in the day when I was 16), but don't expect A1 business practices. Frankly, you can't beat a $19/month Linode out of their London datacenter.
      - dhess 16y ago
        I'm already a happy Linode customer, but for my particular needs, $19/mo is much too expensive for a UK VPN endpoint. I'm looking for something more like prgmr.com prices (also a happy customer of theirs; they just don't happen to have any colo in the UK). Thanks to lowendbox, I found quickvps.co.uk, which, with a 60% discount offer, offers a 256MB Xen VPS for £3/mo. They appear to be competent so far, even though they did e-mail me my root and web UI passwords :\ Anyway, if it goes poorly, I'm out less than a lunch. Thanks again for the link!
c2 16y ago
One of the things I was really mad about Netflix was the fact they stopped publishing their list of most viewed instant play movies as far as I can tell because customer's were using it too much. Same with the "New Release" DVD page, which is now hidden but still accessible. Again, customers were using it too much. That one I could somewhat understand as it caused contention for physical DVDs, but the solution seems to be buy more DVDs, don't hide a useful feature. If Amazon's selection improves, I will be the first to cancel the Netflix subscription and I truly believe Netflix will be in trouble. They just aren't anywhere near as customer focused as Amazon.
- kentbuckle 16y ago
  instantwatcher.com does a good job of indexing new and popular streaming titles on Netflix, if you haven't already heard of it or something similar.
- Locke1689 16y ago
  How would "using it too much" hurt Netflix?
MichaelApproved 16y ago
A lot of people are saying they'd cancel Netflix the moment amazon increases their selection but in order to do that amazon will have to raise prices. That means it'll probably cost more than Netflix and you'll probably not make the move since most wont need fast shipping AND streaming movies.
ctdonath 16y ago
Countdown 'til it's on AppleTV?

118 points by BvS 16y ago

Tichy 16y ago

Of course, US only. I get that the whole system of rights to movies (an music) is a mess. Could we not reset the system at least for NEW movies, and give them somehow unified world wide distribution rights?

pavel_lishin 16y ago
But that would only profit the consumers!
- tomjen3 16y ago
  Whomever makes an iTunes for movies but especially shows that I can pay for and download as soon as they are available on cable and view on my computer is going to get my money. Unfortunately iTunes in Denmark only has music, so thats a no go (and I don't care to be 2 seasons behind on my favorite shows anyway). I am happy to put money where my mouth is, but nobody is willing to sell to me on these terms.
- Tichy 16y ago
  There is always BitTorrent, so it seemes it would benefit the film owners as well to make them available everywhere as soon as possible. Convenience and even morals can beat BitTorrent, but only if it is reasonable. In fact, some video streaming services now seem to be available in Germany. But guess what: they require some dedicated software to be able to play the movies. I am not yet sure I really want that. Also, I am not sure my TV can deal with that (whereas it can probably play torrent movies out of the box). (I think iTunes might have some movies in Germany, too, but last time I checked the selection was not great and highly overpriced).
chaz 16y ago
Unfortunately, no. Studios still need to sell rights to local distributors that can do all of the local marketing (TV, print, billboards). The distributors want exclusivity in their country to ensure that their marketing dollars (TV, print, billboard) are recouped. If customers can simply get a Netflix membership after hearing about it through their local advertising, the distributor will lose money on their investment.
- Tichy 16y ago
  I suppose the local distributors could simply become affiliates of Netflix and Amazon.

mikecarlucci 16y ago

That could be a powerful offering if Amazon can boost the library a bit. $89 per year for Amazon Prime with 2 day shipping and streaming is a few bucks cheaper than a year of Netflix streaming only (7.99*12=95.88) and potentially much more valuable. For someone who shops at Amazon a lot, only uses streaming a little and doesn't have a DVD add-on, this could be huge. Although, when MP3s arrived at Amazon most people stuck with iTunes. Netflix might have enough brand recognition to prevent more than a handful from switching unless Amazon launches a serious campaign. Edit: The other nifty part is Amazon offers video on demand for free with some DVD/Blu-ray purchases. Sending those along speedily plus instant watch also helps people choose Amazon over the local Target, Best Buy etc.

poet 16y ago
Agreed. I'm canceling my Netflix subscription the second Amazon increases their selection. EDIT: And holy shit. A video player that works beautifully and I don't have to install anything. I get a nice big message about installing Silverlight when I browse Netflix with Chrome. Although after further experimentation there are a bunch of things that annoy me off the bat. First, pressing escape while in full screen stops the movie, instead of just exiting fullscreen. Also, exiting fullscreen appears to close GChat windows that I have popped out of my browser. Obviously still some kinks to work out :P
- burgerbrain 16y ago
  Note to other linux users, their video player works brilliantly in linux despite being flash. Waaay better than youtube's fullscreen even. After fullscreening it, I can't even tell it's not mplayer. Very obviously an improvement from the shit netflix situation ;) Of course your milage may vary, but you can test it out with a free clip first.
  - 2mur 16y ago
    That's good to know about flash. One of the reasons that I am moving to using a mac is the crappy experience with flash in Ubuntu. I'm tired of it.

ryandvm 16y ago

So... are they anticipated to follow this up with the other half of the Netflix-style service? You know, renting movies that people actually want to watch.

mkinsella 16y ago
I assume they'll be pushing for more client apps first: Xbox 360, PS3, etc.

carson 16y ago

It is interesting that they say there are 5000 titles but the "Prime Eligible" search only returns 1,669 Results. Hopefully the selection will grow.

pitdesi 16y ago
My search returned 2,153 results. They must be working on it.
- berberich 16y ago
  Looks like it's 2,153 movies (1,669) + TV shows (484).
  - CrazedGeek 16y ago
    Maybe they're counting each episode of each TV show individually?

pitdesi 16y ago

Link to Amazon site: http://www.amazon.com/Video-On-Demand/b?ie=UTF8&node=16261631 http://www.amazon.com/Video-On-Demand/b?ie=UTF8&node=162...

vault_ 16y ago

As a college student using a free prime subscription, it's kind of lame that it's paid only (I understand their reasoning though). My only other concern is how they're delivering the videos. Is it just flash? Or is it some crazy Silverlight+DRM thing like netflix? If it's the former they could attract some Linux users who can't use netflix.

ojbyrne 16y ago
Seems to be just flash.
berberich 16y ago
It's just Flash, like their existing purchase/rental videos.
jim_h 16y ago
The one benefit of Silverlight is that it's not as cpu intensive as Flash. It's nice because you can play it on an older pc/laptop. DRM isn't a big concern since you're not buying the movies. It is different from buying and downloading songs. You weren't expecting them to let you keep the movies, right?
- baddox 16y ago
  DRM is still a big concern if your HTPC runs Linux and they don't provide a client that works with Linux.
  - jim_h 16y ago
    There's moonlight, which is a Silverlight alternative for linux. I just installed it for Ubuntu. Painless to install. edit: You guys are right. Netflix doesn't work under linux. I just tried it under Ubuntu. No go. It's too bad since Silverlight does use less power and Netflix has impressed me so far.
    - drivebyacct2 16y ago

adestefan 16y ago

This is only for paid prime accounts. With my free Amazon Mom prime account I just get a button to upgrade to the paid account. I have about a years worth of free prime built up from buying diapers.

jim_h 16y ago
It seems like it's also for NEW trial accounts. "Start your one month free trial of Amazon Prime now and begin enjoying the benefits of free two-day shipping and unlimited instant streaming of movies and TV shows today." - amazon.com

growt 16y ago

can someone please write a little app that compares which movies are available on netflix, amazon prime or both?

orky56 16y ago

So is Amazon hoping to topple Netflix with this? I'm curious to find out if devices that support Amazon Instant Video will also have this service automatically. That would be a game changer for sure. Amazon clearly has the user and advertising base for this sort of option. However, would I really put customers that want quick shipping and want streaming video in the same bucket? I guess the only similarity is wanting a premium service at a subscription.

scottkduncan 16y ago
I think this is just a toe-dip into streaming video service rather than a full-on attempt to topple Netflix at this point. Prime subscribers give Amazon a ready-made, loyal group of beta-testers and I imagine they'll be paying close attention to the data that comes out of this offering. I see similarities between this and the way they incrementally roll out new AWS features - they don't always feel the need to make a massive splash and they leave space to incorporate user feedback before betting the farm on a new service.
- jonknee 16y ago
  Amazon has been doing streaming for a while (September 2006), this isn't dipping their toe in the space. They actually beat Netflix to it (January 2007). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Video_on_Demand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Video_on_Demand http://netflix.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=201 http://netflix.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=201
  - jmathai 16y ago
    There have been lots of players in the pay-per-play streaming business for some time. Netflix was the first one to emerge with a good subscription service.
jonknee 16y ago
According to Jeff Bezos' note on Amazon's homepage, it is indeed compatible with Amazon Instant Video devices (over 200 and counting these days). Apparently TiVo is an exception currently, but that's the only note: http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ontv/ontv http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ontv/ontv

jim_h 16y ago

I wonder if Amazon Prime instant videos will also work for shared accounts. Prime allows for sharing the account with 4 family members. Will instant videos work for family members too? Netflix allows 7(?) devices that can be linked to an account. Some people also share accounts and it seems to work for them.

bowmande 16y ago
It would appear so. Our Prime account was started by my wife and it is shared with my amazon account, and I am able to watch Amazon Prime videos.
- jim_h 16y ago
  Thanks for the confirmation.
CrazedGeek 16y ago
Sadly, I share a Prime account with my parents, and it's giving me the "upgrade to full Prime" message. Odd.
- jim_h 16y ago
  That is odd. Is the account trial or paid?
  - CrazedGeek 16y ago
    Paid. It's linked to my dad's account, which is the main Prime account.
- Splines 16y ago
  I get that too - my wife is the primary prime account holder, and I'm invited under her amazon account. I'm not surprised that I can't get streaming from my account, seeing as my membership is technically free.

jbellis 16y ago

One very interesting aspect that I haven't seen mentioned yet is that Netflix does a LOT on AWS. I wonder if seeing their infrastructure provider start competing more directly with them, makes them rethink that.

diego 16y ago
No question they are thinking about it. I went to a meetup last week in which they explained how moving to the cloud was extremely important to them, and how they transitioned to SimpleDB and Cassandra. http://www.meetup.com/cloudcomputing/events/16395288/ http://www.meetup.com/cloudcomputing/events/16395288/ (link to paper about their experience). I have both Netflix and Amazon Prime and would probably drop Netflix if Amazon had a better selection. If most users are like me, this means that Netflix has to increase their catalog, which has both technical and licensing implications. On the technical side it's caching and long-tail inefficiencies which will increase their infrastructure costs. If they are still using AWS (the Mercedes Benz of cloud hosting), I'm sure it's because their margins are high. Given their size they could get a much better deal with another provider.
- deleted 16y ago
  [deleted]
thematt 16y ago
Netflix is in a difficult position I think. Their infrastructure is becoming commoditized, much of their content is also being licensed to their competitors and their delivery mechanism is no longer unique. What's left for them to differentiate themselves from the competition? It seems like their only choice is to pay steeper and steeper prices to get content that nobody else has in order to justify their value to subscribers.
- anonymous246 16y ago
  Their recommendation engine is a key strength. I LOVE it. Second, at <$10/mo, the cost is not high enough to make bother with switching. I would rather pay $10/mo have the best streaming experience than pay $6/mo have a second-rate streaming experience. I expect Netflix to come out on top in this battle. Obviously, I'm rooting for them (I dislike companies which squeeze competitors through loss leaders).

jasonkester 16y ago

Same story, different provider: We have detected that you are not located within the US. Due to licensing restrictions Amazon Instant Video customers must be located in the United States when viewing videos online If they can get this to follow me around the world, I'm there. Until then there are a lot of us still without a viable way to watch movies from the internet. (no legal way, that is.)

dotBen 16y ago
Honestly, the best thing to do is own a US based VPS (esp a lowendbox - google it) and proxy your connection when abroad. It's worth proxying your connection securely via SSH/OpenVPN when you are on open wifi anyway. A cheap $5/month VPS is something every hacker should have in their toolkit.
- dhess 16y ago
  Wow, lowendbox is a fantastic resource! I've been looking for a cheap UK VPN endpoint for years, and lowendbox has plenty of options. Thanks for the link.
  - dotBen 16y ago
    Just be careful with anything that looks "too good to be true", unless you are not going to be adversely effected if the provider disappears suddenly (eg you are proxying rather than web serving). Don't pay for a year upfront unless we're talking <$10 A lot of these 'companies' are literally run by 15 year olds - which is fine (I used to run a web host way back in the day when I was 16), but don't expect A1 business practices. Frankly, you can't beat a $19/month Linode out of their London datacenter.
    - dhess 16y ago
      I'm already a happy Linode customer, but for my particular needs, $19/mo is much too expensive for a UK VPN endpoint. I'm looking for something more like prgmr.com prices (also a happy customer of theirs; they just don't happen to have any colo in the UK). Thanks to lowendbox, I found quickvps.co.uk, which, with a 60% discount offer, offers a 256MB Xen VPS for £3/mo. They appear to be competent so far, even though they did e-mail me my root and web UI passwords :\ Anyway, if it goes poorly, I'm out less than a lunch. Thanks again for the link!

c2 16y ago

One of the things I was really mad about Netflix was the fact they stopped publishing their list of most viewed instant play movies as far as I can tell because customer's were using it too much. Same with the "New Release" DVD page, which is now hidden but still accessible. Again, customers were using it too much. That one I could somewhat understand as it caused contention for physical DVDs, but the solution seems to be buy more DVDs, don't hide a useful feature. If Amazon's selection improves, I will be the first to cancel the Netflix subscription and I truly believe Netflix will be in trouble. They just aren't anywhere near as customer focused as Amazon.

kentbuckle 16y ago
instantwatcher.com does a good job of indexing new and popular streaming titles on Netflix, if you haven't already heard of it or something similar.
Locke1689 16y ago
How would "using it too much" hurt Netflix?

MichaelApproved 16y ago

A lot of people are saying they'd cancel Netflix the moment amazon increases their selection but in order to do that amazon will have to raise prices. That means it'll probably cost more than Netflix and you'll probably not make the move since most wont need fast shipping AND streaming movies.

ctdonath 16y ago

Countdown 'til it's on AppleTV?