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Hopefully, not quite like 1848, as those revolutions didn't go anywhere. Things are different now (more religious issues, more communication, ...), and they se
by jleyank 16y ago
Hopefully, not quite like 1848, as those revolutions didn't go anywhere. Things are different now (more religious issues, more communication, ...), and they seem to go faster. Hopefully, people there get what they want (and remember, it might not be what YOU want).
- tomjen3 16y agoThe "revolution" in Denmark in 49[1] got us our constitution which kept the king, but removed almost all his power and made him a ceremonious figure head. [1] it's not much of a revolution when the king simply signs the damn agreement, but is a lot less bloody and there would have been much violence if he hadn't.
- lkozma 16y agoIn most of Central-Eastern Europe 1848 removed the last traces of feudalism, catalysed the "awakening" of nations, leading to the formation of nation-states some decades later. The nationalism ignited in 1848 is such a strong force until today that we find it hard to imagine what was before that. 1848 in Hungary turned into a war of independence from Austria, which although defeated, led to the formation of Austria-Hungary, a largely multiethnic entity, with relative stability and strong growth for half a century, but which proved to be unsustainable and whose breakup ignited the first world war (EDIT: the end of which sew the seeds of a further world war which had inside the germs of the cold war that would follow, etc. etc.)
- yread 16y agoAustria-Hungary was established in 1867
- lkozma 16y agoYes, but in many ways it was the consequence of 1848.
- Vivtek 16y agoThat was the formalization. Hungarian independence in 1848 was the catalyst (and is still celebrated today; I'm pretty sure that's March 17, but there are so damn many significant dates in 1000 years of Hungarian history that I frankly can't remember half of them). The Hungarian independence of 1848 was really pretty damned cool, actually. It would have changed the world had it survived.
- jleyank 16y agoI'm not saying that 1848 wasn't significant, merely that it wasn't decisive in a local sense. The old order did not really recover, and the changes ultimately percolated to the surface. Changes in today's world might/will not be so slow.
- yesbabyyes 16y agoAccording to this diagram, they certainly did go anywhere: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Number_of_nations_1800-2003_scoring_8_or_higher_on_Polity_IV_scale.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Number_of...