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The content is watermarked by the time it is available on HDMI. The guy who re-encoded it would get a knock on the door.
by sounds 7y ago
The content is watermarked by the time it is available on HDMI. The guy who re-encoded it would get a knock on the door.
- kevin_thibedeau 7y agoXOR frames captured via two different accounts.
- wizzwizz4 7y agoWouldn't you need three? Or, better still, do a bitwise 3 of 5 / integer median on the pixel values.
- herogreen 7y agoExcept if the watermark is terribly designed, that will not work. There is a lot of information that you can hide from the eye in a video.
- effie 7y agoWhat would that accomplish? If you want to exclude differences, use AND.
- mschuster91 7y agoNo. HDMI/HDCP does not do watermarking or any other modification to content. Cinema DCP packages, however, do - it's either watermarked at the DCP distributor or in the decryption module, but that stuff is out of reach for most warez crews.
- zozbot234 7y agoEven if HDMI doesn't do that, the streaming provider just might. It would be feasible to implement, and inconvenience potential pirates quite a bit.
- mschuster91 7y agoWhy? Potential pirates are just gonna steal someone's stolen cc details to open up a netflix account.
- jandrese 7y agoThat would seem to increase the cost of streaming quite a bit if the provider has to re-encode the content for each streamer to embed a watermark instead of just dumping pre-encoded bits on the wire. And the watermark has to survive a re-encode. All to shut down some guy's account in a foreign country.
- nitrogen 7y agoYou can encode two streams with some detectable difference in them, then switch between them at GOP boundaries. The stream choice per gop gives one bit of data. You only need 33 gops (33 bits) to uniquely identify everyone on earth right now.
- sounds 7y agoIt's not HDMI/HDCP that watermarks it, that's not what I said. But by the time you get to an HDCP stripper, it has already been watermarked.
- AnthonyMouse 7y ago> You only need 33 gops (33 bits) to uniquely identify everyone on earth right now. But then only ~6 accounts to have >50% probability of seeing every combination of each bit and be able to combine them at random.
- wmf 7y agoYou could have the player software insert the watermark after decode.
- nyuszika7h 7y ago> if the provider has to re-encode the content for each streamer There's no need for that, the CENC standard has more robust watermarking support, but it's not really used in practice yet because it's not commonly supported by browsers and possibly other clients.
- Filligree 7y agoEven if it's some guy in Malaysia?
- jandrese 7y agoI find it hard to believe that a HDCP stripper would then watermark the content and report who bought the equipment to the media cartels.
- wmf 7y agoNo, forensic watermarking would be done by the HDMI source (e.g. a PC in this case). I'm not aware of that being done in reality though.
- robotnikman 7y agoNot if they are located somewhere like Russia or China where the authorities don't care
- gruez 7y ago>The guy who re-encoded it would get a knock on the door. Assuming there is a watermark, how would you track them down? It's not like you need to register your hdmi capture device.