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I was in a car accident once and injured my neck. I got a lot of mental fatigue afterwards and in particular the angle of my neck can trigger a lot of tiredness

I was in a car accident once and injured my neck. I got a lot of mental fatigue afterwards and in particular the angle of my neck can trigger a lot of tiredness very quickly and reliably. It comes with a swooshing squirting sound in the back of my head... iirc other people can hear it too when it happens. I can’t help but wonder if it’s related to this rinse system in some way. Luckily it has improved a ton over the years but a bent neck still triggers it and I never found out why

admiral33 7y ago
Yeah that's something I'd see as many doctors and specialists as it takes to find an answer for.
2bitencryption 7y ago
When I have a migraine, and the excedrin (migraine medication) begins to kick in, I also notice this exact sensation/"sound", like a draining, as a pressure in my skull begins to be relieved. Obviously this is purely anecdotal and not scientific at all, but it's fun to speculate. I like concepts that are intuitive, and this one seems pretty intuitive to me.
ehnto 7y ago
You could have some kind of malformation or inflammation from your injury causing a build up of cerebral fluid, so when you move it's able to rush past into the spine and make the funky fluid noises. In perfectly healthy people, the flow is controlled by a sort of tonsil, and during movement or laughing/coughing it is able to escape into the spine as well. In people who have a malformation from birth, it can cause all kinds of physical developmental issues like lopsided muscle reactions, scoliosis and such. It also gets worse and worse, not better. I'm not a doctor, just had a close family member with a malformation there which was corrected with surgery. You should really see a specialist!
- gentleman11 7y ago
  Interesting. What sort of specialist knows about that?
  - ehnto 7y ago
    In my family members case, an orthopaedic surgeon diagnosed the issue, but a neuro surgeon was required to confirm the diagnosis and eventually perform the surgery. The issue they had is known as a Chiari Malformation. https://www.ninds.nih.gov/Disorders/Patient-Caregiver-Education/Fact-Sheets/Chiari-Malformation-Fact-Sheet https://www.ninds.nih.gov/Disorders/Patient-Caregiver-Educat...
    - gentleman11 7y ago
      Thanks for the info
graeme 7y ago
Can't comment on the whooshing issue. But, I got hit hard in the head by a frisbee and had concussion like symptoms. Both my neck and visual system got thrown off by it it turns out. I went to someone who does therapy for that, and with work on my neck + eye tracking the symptoms went away. Mental fatigue was a big symptom. However, I did not have fatigue due to a particular angle, so that sounds different. But, I suspect you might have the issues I had as an additional factor.
benji_is_me 7y ago
What you're describing sounds similar to a Craniocervical Instability (CCI).[1] It can be confused with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I learned about the condition through Jeff Wood's blog posts.[2] 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craniocervical_instability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craniocervical_instability 2: https://www.mechanicalbasis.org/ https://www.mechanicalbasis.org/

admiral33 7y ago

Yeah that's something I'd see as many doctors and specialists as it takes to find an answer for.

2bitencryption 7y ago

When I have a migraine, and the excedrin (migraine medication) begins to kick in, I also notice this exact sensation/"sound", like a draining, as a pressure in my skull begins to be relieved. Obviously this is purely anecdotal and not scientific at all, but it's fun to speculate. I like concepts that are intuitive, and this one seems pretty intuitive to me.

ehnto 7y ago

You could have some kind of malformation or inflammation from your injury causing a build up of cerebral fluid, so when you move it's able to rush past into the spine and make the funky fluid noises. In perfectly healthy people, the flow is controlled by a sort of tonsil, and during movement or laughing/coughing it is able to escape into the spine as well. In people who have a malformation from birth, it can cause all kinds of physical developmental issues like lopsided muscle reactions, scoliosis and such. It also gets worse and worse, not better. I'm not a doctor, just had a close family member with a malformation there which was corrected with surgery. You should really see a specialist!

gentleman11 7y ago
Interesting. What sort of specialist knows about that?
- ehnto 7y ago
  In my family members case, an orthopaedic surgeon diagnosed the issue, but a neuro surgeon was required to confirm the diagnosis and eventually perform the surgery. The issue they had is known as a Chiari Malformation. https://www.ninds.nih.gov/Disorders/Patient-Caregiver-Education/Fact-Sheets/Chiari-Malformation-Fact-Sheet https://www.ninds.nih.gov/Disorders/Patient-Caregiver-Educat...
  - gentleman11 7y ago
    Thanks for the info

graeme 7y ago

Can't comment on the whooshing issue. But, I got hit hard in the head by a frisbee and had concussion like symptoms. Both my neck and visual system got thrown off by it it turns out. I went to someone who does therapy for that, and with work on my neck + eye tracking the symptoms went away. Mental fatigue was a big symptom. However, I did not have fatigue due to a particular angle, so that sounds different. But, I suspect you might have the issues I had as an additional factor.

benji_is_me 7y ago

What you're describing sounds similar to a Craniocervical Instability (CCI).[1] It can be confused with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I learned about the condition through Jeff Wood's blog posts.[2] 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craniocervical_instability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craniocervical_instability 2: https://www.mechanicalbasis.org/ https://www.mechanicalbasis.org/