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I’m guessing you don’t know many people who were born into wealth. The skill that they must learn is how not to lose the money. This skill is difficult to sus

by csa 7y ago

I’m guessing you don’t know many people who were born into wealth. The skill that they must learn is how not to lose the money. This skill is difficult to sustain over more than a generation or two — grandparent earns it, parent might keep it, child usually ends up destitute both in terms of financial capital and social capital. If the “child” in this scenario is lucky, they have some social capital that will save them, and their branch of the family tree is at an inflection point. Seeing a family self-destruct like this is tough to watch and surprisingly common within that class of people.

munk-a 7y ago
That skill is so trivial to learn compared with the skill of surviving and building up income from nothing. Rich people literally just need to not be complete idiots - if you've got 300 million in the bank put it in some low interest stable investment and you'd be able to live off the investment earnings alone. There, I just explained all the life skills you need as a rich person - there is no equivalence between the road the rich and the poor need to walk to survive.
- csa 7y ago
  I am guessing that you do not know many people who were born into wealth. There are existential questions that gnaw at some of these people that hinder them from taking the seemingly simple path that you have presented. I would also argue that it is not as easy as you would think to park millions in some "low interest stable investment" that also does not have substantial (for generational wealth) counter-party risk. > there is no equivalence between the road the rich and the poor need to walk to survive I agree with this, but I think you are being overly dismissive of the skills that someone born into a wealthy family needs to keep that wealth. It requires a healthy amount of self-awareness among other things.
  - munk-a 7y ago
    Being a human being isn't easy, many people rich and poor struggle with deep philosophical questions, some people get devoured by questions of relative wealth even when they have very little just because they're among so many people poorer off than them. That doesn't change the fact that being rich is easy mode for life. Yes, it isn't just a stroll in the continuous orgy park of happiness and funtimes, but there are a lot of difficulties in life that arise out of not having enough money, rich people essentially get a pass on all of these problems. So, while I'm not saying that rich people never struggle with being a human being and all the existential doubt that can accompany that. I am saying that they never struggle to eat. I think everyone has their own struggles through life and really don't want to minimize problems that can arise in dealing with human issues like poor mental health - but seriously, everything is on easy mode for the rich, and if you don't think that's the case then you should really reach out to other communities and see what low income people have to deal with on a daily basis.
  - peterashford 7y ago
    I literally cannot believe you are seriously making this argument.
    - csa 7y ago
      I have seen too many people who were born into wealthy families, "have it made", and yet totally self-destruct in ways that I am not sure I would wish on my worst enemy. I think another perspective on this issue is worth making.
sabarn01 7y ago
I grew up working class and have seen lots of people fail. Those without the wherewithal to get on social benefits generally moved on with their lives toward success. I also have know several to get on social benefits find that acceptable and live what seemed to me unfulfilling lives on a type of pseudo adult hood. It could be they were happy and who am I to judge. I have always known if I fail I will be destitute and I think it has helped me build a decent life. But what works for me may not work for others.

by csa 7y ago

munk-a 7y ago

That skill is so trivial to learn compared with the skill of surviving and building up income from nothing. Rich people literally just need to not be complete idiots - if you've got 300 million in the bank put it in some low interest stable investment and you'd be able to live off the investment earnings alone. There, I just explained all the life skills you need as a rich person - there is no equivalence between the road the rich and the poor need to walk to survive.

csa 7y ago
I am guessing that you do not know many people who were born into wealth. There are existential questions that gnaw at some of these people that hinder them from taking the seemingly simple path that you have presented. I would also argue that it is not as easy as you would think to park millions in some "low interest stable investment" that also does not have substantial (for generational wealth) counter-party risk. > there is no equivalence between the road the rich and the poor need to walk to survive I agree with this, but I think you are being overly dismissive of the skills that someone born into a wealthy family needs to keep that wealth. It requires a healthy amount of self-awareness among other things.
- munk-a 7y ago
  Being a human being isn't easy, many people rich and poor struggle with deep philosophical questions, some people get devoured by questions of relative wealth even when they have very little just because they're among so many people poorer off than them. That doesn't change the fact that being rich is easy mode for life. Yes, it isn't just a stroll in the continuous orgy park of happiness and funtimes, but there are a lot of difficulties in life that arise out of not having enough money, rich people essentially get a pass on all of these problems. So, while I'm not saying that rich people never struggle with being a human being and all the existential doubt that can accompany that. I am saying that they never struggle to eat. I think everyone has their own struggles through life and really don't want to minimize problems that can arise in dealing with human issues like poor mental health - but seriously, everything is on easy mode for the rich, and if you don't think that's the case then you should really reach out to other communities and see what low income people have to deal with on a daily basis.
- peterashford 7y ago
  I literally cannot believe you are seriously making this argument.
  - csa 7y ago
    I have seen too many people who were born into wealthy families, "have it made", and yet totally self-destruct in ways that I am not sure I would wish on my worst enemy. I think another perspective on this issue is worth making.

sabarn01 7y ago

I grew up working class and have seen lots of people fail. Those without the wherewithal to get on social benefits generally moved on with their lives toward success. I also have know several to get on social benefits find that acceptable and live what seemed to me unfulfilling lives on a type of pseudo adult hood. It could be they were happy and who am I to judge. I have always known if I fail I will be destitute and I think it has helped me build a decent life. But what works for me may not work for others.