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> China had five commercial tests on the market 1 month ago and can now do up to 1.6 million tests a week China, for all of their faults, is showing what a omn

> China had five commercial tests on the market 1 month ago and can now do up to 1.6 million tests a week China, for all of their faults, is showing what a omnipowerful central government can do in an emergency. Forced quarantines (welding of apartment doors closed), emergency food distribution, hospitals built in 7 days, and instant ramp-up production of tests and drugs

warent 7y ago
I'm not convinced it's effective considering people across the globe are still being infected. This is just Chinese government dealing with problems in the only way they know how: through inhumane brute force, flailing until the rest of the world solves it for them.
- shalmanese 7y ago
  China managed to contain it as a pandemic purely to Hubei province. There was almost certainly more internal migration between provinces than there was international migration so we have a sample size of n = 33 successful containment protocols in the face of an unknown number of asymptomatic carriers. If every country in the world had adopted containment procedures as severe as Chinese provinces, this virus almost certainly wouldn't have been able to gain a foothold and we could have avoided the risk of a global pandemic. As much as China might be faking numbers, you can't hide a pandemic, the signs are simply too obvious.
- harikb 7y ago
  Even if it did spread outside, it gave days and weeks for the rest of the world to prepare to deal with it Until a western/free government handles an equally bad crisis (on week/month zero), one has to believe what Chinese did is as good as it gets
  - datashow 7y ago
    If China did not hide their numbers, the rest of the world would have taken it seriously earlier?
- scarmig 7y ago
  Cases outside China are, indeed, growing at an exponential rate. Cases inside China are growing at a sublinear rate. As far as I can tell, it's the rest of the world (sans a couple countries like Singapore and Taiwan) that are flailing.
  - blackrock 7y ago
    Careful there. You’re about to be called a shill, and downvoted, or labeled an apologist, for writing anything positive or supportive, about China’s handling of the crisis. It appears HN has become just the same as the braindead Reddit crowd, since most people visit both sites.
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  - vanniv 7y ago
    Cases in China are growing at a sublinear rate according to the Chinese government.
    - scarmig 7y ago
      China is loosening up quarantine regulations, bit by bit. If their numbers are faked, then they're also being faked to internal decision makers. And, for what it's worth, the WHO confirms the numbers are broadly accurate.
p1necone 7y ago
Are they also sending supplies and medical help to people they've forcibly welded inside their homes? Seems like that could kill just as many as COVID-19.
- scarmig 7y ago
  In my experience, the actual policy has been to ensure there's just one entrance, in and out of an apartment complex, at which point guards take your temperature and alert authorities if it's elevated. It's easy to go out and buy groceries, and if you do show symptoms of coronavirus you can rest assured you'll get... help.

warent 7y ago

I'm not convinced it's effective considering people across the globe are still being infected. This is just Chinese government dealing with problems in the only way they know how: through inhumane brute force, flailing until the rest of the world solves it for them.

shalmanese 7y ago
China managed to contain it as a pandemic purely to Hubei province. There was almost certainly more internal migration between provinces than there was international migration so we have a sample size of n = 33 successful containment protocols in the face of an unknown number of asymptomatic carriers. If every country in the world had adopted containment procedures as severe as Chinese provinces, this virus almost certainly wouldn't have been able to gain a foothold and we could have avoided the risk of a global pandemic. As much as China might be faking numbers, you can't hide a pandemic, the signs are simply too obvious.
harikb 7y ago
Even if it did spread outside, it gave days and weeks for the rest of the world to prepare to deal with it Until a western/free government handles an equally bad crisis (on week/month zero), one has to believe what Chinese did is as good as it gets
- datashow 7y ago
  If China did not hide their numbers, the rest of the world would have taken it seriously earlier?
scarmig 7y ago
Cases outside China are, indeed, growing at an exponential rate. Cases inside China are growing at a sublinear rate. As far as I can tell, it's the rest of the world (sans a couple countries like Singapore and Taiwan) that are flailing.
- blackrock 7y ago
  Careful there. You’re about to be called a shill, and downvoted, or labeled an apologist, for writing anything positive or supportive, about China’s handling of the crisis. It appears HN has become just the same as the braindead Reddit crowd, since most people visit both sites.
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- vanniv 7y ago
  Cases in China are growing at a sublinear rate according to the Chinese government.
  - scarmig 7y ago
    China is loosening up quarantine regulations, bit by bit. If their numbers are faked, then they're also being faked to internal decision makers. And, for what it's worth, the WHO confirms the numbers are broadly accurate.

p1necone 7y ago

Are they also sending supplies and medical help to people they've forcibly welded inside their homes? Seems like that could kill just as many as COVID-19.

scarmig 7y ago
In my experience, the actual policy has been to ensure there's just one entrance, in and out of an apartment complex, at which point guards take your temperature and alert authorities if it's elevated. It's easy to go out and buy groceries, and if you do show symptoms of coronavirus you can rest assured you'll get... help.