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You know you could change your working yours instead of changing "time". Nope. Lets change time twice a year cause health problems, IT problems, car accidents.

by hyfgfh 7y ago

You know you could change your working yours instead of changing "time". Nope. Lets change time twice a year cause health problems, IT problems, car accidents. Its already time to use a global time and stop with this bs of timezones. Timezones are an unreliable way to measure time the relation between time space.

bsagdiyev 7y ago
But is a great way to give sunlight hours a normal schedule regardless of DST. Global time makes zero sense, like literally none.
- jachee 7y ago
  13:00:00.00Z means the same moment wherever you are on (or off) the planet. Does that help it make sense?
  - new_realist 7y ago
    No, because people use local time to decide when to go to bed, and when to get up. Aligning that to the sun is the most important bit. Asking your smartphone what time it is somewhere else is trivially easy no matter what method you use.
    - pishpash 7y ago
      People used to not have any time and watched the sun. I'm sure they can adapt to their local working hours, even if it's 13:00-22:00.
    - CameronNemo 7y ago
      > people use local time to decide when to go to bed, and when to get up. Aligning that to the sun is the most important bit. And yet, this is what DST gets so damn wrong.
- hyfgfh 7y ago
  https://www.vox.com/2014/8/5/5970767/case-against-time-zones https://www.vox.com/2014/8/5/5970767/case-against-time-zones
tzs 7y ago
> Its already time to use a global time and stop with this bs of timezones. Timezones are an unreliable way to measure time the relation between time space Time zones exist because the Earth is roughly spherical. Going to global time does not change this, and so does not remove the need for time zones.
- austhrow743 7y ago
  The earth being roughly spherical does not mean time zones are needed. Why would it?
  - akhosravian 7y ago
    My immediate thought whenever I encounter the no time zone crowd is what units of time do you think make sense? Once we throw our time zones the concept of a day no longer seems very useful — each season works out to about 2 kilohours or 8 megaseconds.
    - austhrow743 7y ago
      What is there to gain from messing with units of time?
  - tzs 7y ago
    Work hours, business hours, and sleep hours in most locations will still be tied roughly to sunrise/noon/sunset. People are still going to want uniform event times within an area--almost no one wants businesses to open 50 seconds later in Seattle than in Redmond, for example. We will still end up with strips separated by longitude boundaries, with events synchronized within each strip. We'll probably still synchronize each strip so that events are one hour or one half hour later than the strip to their east. To answer questions like "is it too late to call my friend in <X> now?" where X is someplace outside your strip, you need the offset of your strip from UTC and the offset of your friend's strip. From the difference of those, and the UTC time of normal bed time in your strip, you can figure out if it is probably past bedtime in your friend's strip. These "strips" are pretty much the same as our current "time zones".

by hyfgfh 7y ago

bsagdiyev 7y ago

But is a great way to give sunlight hours a normal schedule regardless of DST. Global time makes zero sense, like literally none.

jachee 7y ago
13:00:00.00Z means the same moment wherever you are on (or off) the planet. Does that help it make sense?
- new_realist 7y ago
  No, because people use local time to decide when to go to bed, and when to get up. Aligning that to the sun is the most important bit. Asking your smartphone what time it is somewhere else is trivially easy no matter what method you use.
  - pishpash 7y ago
    People used to not have any time and watched the sun. I'm sure they can adapt to their local working hours, even if it's 13:00-22:00.
  - CameronNemo 7y ago
    > people use local time to decide when to go to bed, and when to get up. Aligning that to the sun is the most important bit. And yet, this is what DST gets so damn wrong.
hyfgfh 7y ago
https://www.vox.com/2014/8/5/5970767/case-against-time-zones https://www.vox.com/2014/8/5/5970767/case-against-time-zones

tzs 7y ago

> Its already time to use a global time and stop with this bs of timezones. Timezones are an unreliable way to measure time the relation between time space Time zones exist because the Earth is roughly spherical. Going to global time does not change this, and so does not remove the need for time zones.

austhrow743 7y ago
The earth being roughly spherical does not mean time zones are needed. Why would it?
- akhosravian 7y ago
  My immediate thought whenever I encounter the no time zone crowd is what units of time do you think make sense? Once we throw our time zones the concept of a day no longer seems very useful — each season works out to about 2 kilohours or 8 megaseconds.
  - austhrow743 7y ago
    What is there to gain from messing with units of time?
- tzs 7y ago
  Work hours, business hours, and sleep hours in most locations will still be tied roughly to sunrise/noon/sunset. People are still going to want uniform event times within an area--almost no one wants businesses to open 50 seconds later in Seattle than in Redmond, for example. We will still end up with strips separated by longitude boundaries, with events synchronized within each strip. We'll probably still synchronize each strip so that events are one hour or one half hour later than the strip to their east. To answer questions like "is it too late to call my friend in <X> now?" where X is someplace outside your strip, you need the offset of your strip from UTC and the offset of your friend's strip. From the difference of those, and the UTC time of normal bed time in your strip, you can figure out if it is probably past bedtime in your friend's strip. These "strips" are pretty much the same as our current "time zones".