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Taxi drivers can pick up anyone on their own terms (with some limitations from local laws). Uber drivers on the other hand can only legally pick up rides dispat

Taxi drivers can pick up anyone on their own terms (with some limitations from local laws). Uber drivers on the other hand can only legally pick up rides dispatched from Uber or another ride-sharing app. That's all they're insured for and that's all local laws will allow because they don't have status as licensed taxi drivers in a licensed vehicle. A customer can hand me cash and nobody gets a piece except the government. An Uber driver cannot accept cash or payment outside the Uber app or they will be fired.

throwaway744678 7y ago
(French) VTC may actually pick up anyone on their own terms providing the ride was booked in advance by the customer (ie. they can't pick someone in the street). The customer may order through a ride-sharing app, or through any other means, eg. by phone, email, whatever. What Uber forbids is building up such a clientele from customers it brought through the app.
Jommi 7y ago
What are you talking about? Maybe you are referencing how Uber works in the some American state? This is France and that's not how the regulation works there. US-centrisism at it's finest.
- def8cefe 7y ago
  Uber drivers can't pick up hailed rides anywhere. That has nothing to do with the jurisdiction, it's simply not a function of the app. If they did, they would be taxi drivers.
  - Jommi 7y ago
    I think you're coming from a completely wrong view point. There are no "Uber drivers" these are taxi drivers that choose to (at times) use the Uber app to get clients. Depending on the local jursidiction, they might be absolutely free to do street pickups. For example in Finland someone driving for Uber could pickup someone from the street.
    - def8cefe 7y ago
      They may be free to do it under local law, but they would not be doing it as an Uber driver, they would be doing so as a taxi driver. There is no ability to use the Uber platform for hailed or other ad-hoc rides, they must be ordered through the platform and all payments must go through Uber. Uber provides the commercial insurance to drivers they need when carrying passengers, for example (pretty sure they do this in all areas they operate, but I'll wait with bated breath to be told they don't in Bulgaria). If a taxi driver who also worked for Uber picked up a hailed ride it would not cover them.
      - Jommi 7y ago
        Exactly, so we agree on the point - there are no 'uber drivers' per se, they are just contractors driving a car and intermittently using services to find clientele. Uber provides some insurance in _most_ countries they operate in, but it's quite often the case that this is not enough and that other insurance (usually specific for their classification e.g. Taxi Driver insurance, or VTC insurance) is required. So your point on insurance is quite moot. What's actually interesting is that some of Uber's competitors do have a street-hailing functionality, where the app essentially works as a virtual card terminal for hand-hailed rides. Cool!
        def8cefe 7y ago
        >usually specific for their classification e.g. Taxi Driver insurance, or VTC insurance
        Jommi 7y ago
        Yes, your point? You need different insurance if you're going to be driving 10 hours per day instead of just to work, and from work. Who would have guessed?
        def8cefe 7y ago
        Why are you being so rude? You've been disrespectful since your first comment in this thread. My point is even the French classify rideshare drivers and taxi drivers differently, per your own admission.

throwaway744678 7y ago

(French) VTC may actually pick up anyone on their own terms providing the ride was booked in advance by the customer (ie. they can't pick someone in the street). The customer may order through a ride-sharing app, or through any other means, eg. by phone, email, whatever. What Uber forbids is building up such a clientele from customers it brought through the app.

Jommi 7y ago

What are you talking about? Maybe you are referencing how Uber works in the some American state? This is France and that's not how the regulation works there. US-centrisism at it's finest.

def8cefe 7y ago
Uber drivers can't pick up hailed rides anywhere. That has nothing to do with the jurisdiction, it's simply not a function of the app. If they did, they would be taxi drivers.
- Jommi 7y ago
  I think you're coming from a completely wrong view point. There are no "Uber drivers" these are taxi drivers that choose to (at times) use the Uber app to get clients. Depending on the local jursidiction, they might be absolutely free to do street pickups. For example in Finland someone driving for Uber could pickup someone from the street.
  - def8cefe 7y ago
    They may be free to do it under local law, but they would not be doing it as an Uber driver, they would be doing so as a taxi driver. There is no ability to use the Uber platform for hailed or other ad-hoc rides, they must be ordered through the platform and all payments must go through Uber. Uber provides the commercial insurance to drivers they need when carrying passengers, for example (pretty sure they do this in all areas they operate, but I'll wait with bated breath to be told they don't in Bulgaria). If a taxi driver who also worked for Uber picked up a hailed ride it would not cover them.
    - Jommi 7y ago
      Exactly, so we agree on the point - there are no 'uber drivers' per se, they are just contractors driving a car and intermittently using services to find clientele. Uber provides some insurance in _most_ countries they operate in, but it's quite often the case that this is not enough and that other insurance (usually specific for their classification e.g. Taxi Driver insurance, or VTC insurance) is required. So your point on insurance is quite moot. What's actually interesting is that some of Uber's competitors do have a street-hailing functionality, where the app essentially works as a virtual card terminal for hand-hailed rides. Cool!
      - def8cefe 7y ago
        >usually specific for their classification e.g. Taxi Driver insurance, or VTC insurance
        Jommi 7y ago
        Yes, your point? You need different insurance if you're going to be driving 10 hours per day instead of just to work, and from work. Who would have guessed?
        def8cefe 7y ago
        Why are you being so rude? You've been disrespectful since your first comment in this thread. My point is even the French classify rideshare drivers and taxi drivers differently, per your own admission.