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Yeah cause screw that person who died.
by rleahy22 7y ago
Yeah cause screw that person who died.
- ebiester 7y agoArizona allows drivers over 80, and I'd trust Waymo over the average octogenarian driving.
- nomadluap 7y agoThat would be an interesting metric: normalized accident rates for self-driving cars vs octogenarian-driven cars.
- dodobirdlord 7y agoI'm certain the self-driving cars win. Per Waymo's numbers they already have a much lower accident rate than the average driver.
- mandevil 7y agoSee, the thing is, Waymo controls the data, and certainly knows how good their driving is. If it was clearly better than the average octogenarian driving, wouldn't they be letting us all know that? Wouldn't they be announcing that and writing up white papers and giving presentations at conferences about this? They need to start building the safety case, and it is entirely to their benefit to release this data, if it truly is more reliable than even just the average octogenarian. The fact that they don't, and so far as I can tell only release the minimum data that they are legally obligated to (and marketing-speak like https://waymo.com/safety/ https://waymo.com/safety/ is not the same thing at all), leaves me with an inference that the data is not nearly that rosy.
- foota 7y agoThere's a difference between something being safe and being capable. I can make a trivially safe self driving car that just sits there and does nothing, completely safe but not capable :) My point being that Waymo could have zero colissions (which I believe is not true) but still not be as capable a driver as someone for which it is unsafe to be driving, but is reasonably capable of getting around.
- thedance 7y agoArizona also allows people under 30 to drive, and every age group under 30 has a much higher accident rate than 80+. People under the age of 18 have quadruple the accident rate of people aged 80. The reason people incorrectly believe that octogenarians are bad drivers is they have a tendency to die in even minor accidents.
- JoeAltmaier 7y agoI think folks think 80+ drivers are bad, is they drive conservatively and carefully. Its annoying to 20-something drivers who want to race around and take chances. {not an 80+ driver}
- stevehawk 7y agoNo regulation was going to prevent a death where developers intentionally disabled all safety checks.
- henryfjordan 7y agoWhat about a regulation requiring reasonable safety checks?
- hnick 7y agoLaws don't change outcomes, but they can influence behaviours. Such as a developer not doing the above due to concern of a law.
- kazinator 7y agoRegulation can prevent some instances of such disabling.
- tradertef 7y agoDo you know how many people dies in US roads every day? Maybe we should ban all motor vehicles.