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They just chill in the sleeper cab the whole way and then "pilot" the last mile?

milofeynman 7y ago
I don't think any laws allow for fully autonomous. I believe they require someone to be there to take over at all times.
Loughla 7y ago
I'm getting flashes of youth, living as new nomads inside the self-driving truck they are leasing from a company. I think the future I see is both dumb and terrifying.
- omegaworks 7y ago
  What is old is new again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freighthopping https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freighthopping
tialaramex 7y ago
Professional driving comes with hours limitations. In most industrialised countries you can't work more than so-and-so many hours driving without so-and-so many hours of rest (I don't know what the US rules are but I know they have them). But as just a passenger, aboard the truck but not driving it, you aren't using up those precious hours. I can see this making sense where the driver also has some skilled role at both ends, e.g. supervising loading and unloading of a particular type of cargo. Otherwise it may be just as sensible to build giant truck parking lots at key locations on big highways and have a human board trucks when they get to the closest lot to the final destination. In that model all truck drivers would go home every day, which means it's a less well paid job but also one that's more compatible with having a life outside work - long distance trucking would become something trucks do but drivers don't.
- UI_at_80x24 7y ago
  >But as just a passenger, aboard the truck but not driving it, you aren't using up those precious hours. This is inaccurate. If you are sitting in the passenger seat you are classified as "On-Duty Not Driving" You are only 'resting' (aka "Off-Duty") when you are in the bunk.
  - Aloha 7y ago
    This however is frequently violated and widely ignored, as there is no enforcement mechanism, when I teamed, I'd do my 8 hours of sleep, then come up at sit with my co-driver and talk with him about the day ahead as he drove until it was time to stop
    - UI_at_80x24 7y ago
      Very true.
    - luma 7y ago
      Had you already transitioned to electronic logbook? Faking the log entries isn't as easy as it used to be.
      - Aloha 7y ago
        How does the electronic logbook tell if I'm in the bunk or in the seat? its smart, but not that smart.
JCharante 7y ago
Sounds like airplane pilots
paxys 7y ago
They don't have to be there the entire time. They can get on/off at a stop close to the city, for example.
- VectorLock 7y ago
  Do they need a sleeper cab for that and not just a passenger seat?

I don't think any laws allow for fully autonomous. I believe they require someone to be there to take over at all times.

Loughla 7y ago

I'm getting flashes of youth, living as new nomads inside the self-driving truck they are leasing from a company. I think the future I see is both dumb and terrifying.

omegaworks 7y ago
What is old is new again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freighthopping https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freighthopping

tialaramex 7y ago

Professional driving comes with hours limitations. In most industrialised countries you can't work more than so-and-so many hours driving without so-and-so many hours of rest (I don't know what the US rules are but I know they have them). But as just a passenger, aboard the truck but not driving it, you aren't using up those precious hours. I can see this making sense where the driver also has some skilled role at both ends, e.g. supervising loading and unloading of a particular type of cargo. Otherwise it may be just as sensible to build giant truck parking lots at key locations on big highways and have a human board trucks when they get to the closest lot to the final destination. In that model all truck drivers would go home every day, which means it's a less well paid job but also one that's more compatible with having a life outside work - long distance trucking would become something trucks do but drivers don't.

UI_at_80x24 7y ago
>But as just a passenger, aboard the truck but not driving it, you aren't using up those precious hours. This is inaccurate. If you are sitting in the passenger seat you are classified as "On-Duty Not Driving" You are only 'resting' (aka "Off-Duty") when you are in the bunk.
- Aloha 7y ago
  This however is frequently violated and widely ignored, as there is no enforcement mechanism, when I teamed, I'd do my 8 hours of sleep, then come up at sit with my co-driver and talk with him about the day ahead as he drove until it was time to stop
  - UI_at_80x24 7y ago
    Very true.
  - luma 7y ago
    Had you already transitioned to electronic logbook? Faking the log entries isn't as easy as it used to be.
    - Aloha 7y ago
      How does the electronic logbook tell if I'm in the bunk or in the seat? its smart, but not that smart.

JCharante 7y ago

Sounds like airplane pilots

paxys 7y ago

They don't have to be there the entire time. They can get on/off at a stop close to the city, for example.

VectorLock 7y ago
Do they need a sleeper cab for that and not just a passenger seat?