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Hemp seeds can be eaten and provide nutrients. Though I am not sure of the yield per hectare vs a staple crop like rice or wheat.

bitxbitxbitcoin 7y ago
Presumably, the way they'd be growing, seeds aren't a desirable byproduct. The yield per acre for hemp seeds is around 700 pounds.[0] In comparison, rice can yield an order of magnitude more at 7471 pounds.[1] Note that these numbers aren't for Malawi's climate but the difference is definitely still going to be there. [0] https://www.agmrc.org/commodities-products/fiber/industrial-hemp https://www.agmrc.org/commodities-products/fiber/industrial-... [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/190479/rice-yield-per-harvested-acre-in-the-us-from-2000/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/190479/rice-yield-per-ha...
- dumbfoundded 7y ago
  I'm unsure of the long term potential of hemp seeds. I don't think the genetics have been optimized for growing seeds yet. Most people breed for CBD, THC, and specific terpene profiles. The higher volume, lower margin goods like seed and fiber have been relatively unexplored by the market.
  - bitxbitxbitcoin 7y ago
    Good point - I can only imagine that there is a lot of optimization possible for seeds if cannabis becomes used as a food source. I'd argue that the genetics of cannabis/hemp for use as fiber have been relatively more explored than seeds by selective breeding of Cannabis Sativa during the milleniums in some cultures when hemp fiber was the fiber of choice.[0] [0] https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-teenage-mind/201105/history-cannabis-in-ancient-china https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-teenage-mind/201...
    - dumbfoundded 7y ago
      I believe fiber and seeds were the original uses of the plant. Psychoactive properties weren't discovered until much later. As for genetics, the tools we have now are so much better for breeding than even 25 years ago. For example, cannabis in the 90s was ~5% THC. Now it's easy to find strains over 30%. Similarly, CBD flower and CBG flower didn't exist even 5 years ago and now we have 20% CBD flower strains. I'm sure people are working on genetics similarly for seed production and fiber but the money isn't there yet. Entire supply chains have to be built to support the industry. It's not just the farmers and genetics. There's processing equipment on multiple levels required as well as consumer markets that have to be established.
      - thatcat 7y ago
        What tools are you talking about? I thought that was due to many iterations of selection for specific traits.
        dumbfoundded 7y ago
        Certain types of large manufacturing equipment must be built in a crop-specific way or at least benefit significantly by being designed for a particular crop. For example, all cannabis flower (non-extracted) is harvested by hand and then trimmed by hand. Recently machines were made to trim large amounts of cannabis efficiently with high quality. It used to take one person at least an hour to trim a pound of weed. Now a machine can do 10lbs a minute. Throughout the supply-chain, there are machines that must be built to support the physical scale. This isn't unique to cannabis, vaping had the same problem. The cartridges used to all be filled by hand until someone invested in the machinery. That what causes standards and grades to be created. None of that really exists in cannabis/hemp right now.
      - econcon 7y ago
        >Psychoactive properties weren't discovered until much later. It's known for atleast 5000years.
- hadtodoit 7y ago
  IIRC rice isn't very nutritious, it's just calorie dense. In that regard adding hemp seeds to your diet may do more in the long run.
  - klingonopera 7y ago
    These are mostly myths, at best they are ignored, at worst, they perpetuate the assumption half the population in Asia would be nourishing themselves badly (since many thousands of years - seems a bit far-fetched, no?). https://doctor.ndtv.com/living-healthy/8-myths-about-rice-you-should-never-believe-1866263 https://doctor.ndtv.com/living-healthy/8-myths-about-rice-yo...
    - LargoLasskhyfv 7y ago
      Myth or not, ask people which have birds like Budgerigars, or watch it for your self. When you give them mixed food, they always go for the hemp seeds first, even by picking through maybe an ounce of corns/seeds until they get to the few hemp ones. Why is that?
      - econcon 7y ago
        Addict might go for heroine? Kid might go for Sugary drink or cereals or snack over something like broccoli What does it prove? People in south Asia atleast don't consume Rice alone, rice has handful of amino acids when it's coupled with lentils (of different kinds) which have other complementary amino acid profile it becomes a complete protein like any other protein from whey This is often smth which Indian people say, "bro our diet lacks protein". Yea what you consume everyday as "Dal bhaat rotti" if if it's protein then what it is?
        LargoLasskhyfv 7y ago
        Addict might go for heroine? wasn't what i meant to imply, nor does it fit the profile of the hemp seeds in birdseed since they come from the sort hemp which doesn't make you high. More something like it's healthy and they know it. By whatever means...
monkeynotes 7y ago
Hemp is not the same strain as Cannabis producing plants, also Cannabis is harvested from the flower and so you don't typically get seeds.
- nicehat 7y ago
  This is a hilariously wrong sentence in multiple ways. Hemp :is: a strain of cannabis. You may have meant to say 'THC producing plants' which would still be technically wrong. While sensamilla is probably what most people are used to these days, that is not to say seeds are not involved / don't appear in capital C cannabis. I would bet $10, based purely on the deadpan authoritative delivery of completely factually wrong information, that you are either American or British. Close?
  - RobertoG 7y ago
    >>" delivery of completely factually wrong information, that you are either American or British" Not the gp here, but I think that comment is uncalled for. I'm not American or British and I have been totally wrong, and convinced that I was right, many times. The gp was commenting in a normal tone. I think a simple correction should be enough.
    - nicehat 7y ago
      I'm American, and I agree people everywhere get things wrong without knowing. But buddy if you think Americans and British people don't do this more than other nations, then you must have missed the whole colonialism thing. No other nations have the same YouTube compilations where people on the street get asked if made up countries should be bombed - resulting in emphatic and authoritative confirmation that yes they need to be punished. If we're not even allowed to talk about the particular kind of dumb we have then how can we get better?
      - leetcrew 7y ago
        people might be more willing to engage with you if you didn't present the existence of youtube compilations as serious evidence.
clint 7y ago
Generally industrial scale cannabis is grown via cloning of feminized plants which generally do not produce seeds

bitxbitxbitcoin 7y ago

Presumably, the way they'd be growing, seeds aren't a desirable byproduct. The yield per acre for hemp seeds is around 700 pounds.[0] In comparison, rice can yield an order of magnitude more at 7471 pounds.[1] Note that these numbers aren't for Malawi's climate but the difference is definitely still going to be there. [0] https://www.agmrc.org/commodities-products/fiber/industrial-hemp https://www.agmrc.org/commodities-products/fiber/industrial-... [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/190479/rice-yield-per-harvested-acre-in-the-us-from-2000/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/190479/rice-yield-per-ha...

dumbfoundded 7y ago
I'm unsure of the long term potential of hemp seeds. I don't think the genetics have been optimized for growing seeds yet. Most people breed for CBD, THC, and specific terpene profiles. The higher volume, lower margin goods like seed and fiber have been relatively unexplored by the market.
- bitxbitxbitcoin 7y ago
  Good point - I can only imagine that there is a lot of optimization possible for seeds if cannabis becomes used as a food source. I'd argue that the genetics of cannabis/hemp for use as fiber have been relatively more explored than seeds by selective breeding of Cannabis Sativa during the milleniums in some cultures when hemp fiber was the fiber of choice.[0] [0] https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-teenage-mind/201105/history-cannabis-in-ancient-china https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-teenage-mind/201...
  - dumbfoundded 7y ago
    I believe fiber and seeds were the original uses of the plant. Psychoactive properties weren't discovered until much later. As for genetics, the tools we have now are so much better for breeding than even 25 years ago. For example, cannabis in the 90s was ~5% THC. Now it's easy to find strains over 30%. Similarly, CBD flower and CBG flower didn't exist even 5 years ago and now we have 20% CBD flower strains. I'm sure people are working on genetics similarly for seed production and fiber but the money isn't there yet. Entire supply chains have to be built to support the industry. It's not just the farmers and genetics. There's processing equipment on multiple levels required as well as consumer markets that have to be established.
    - thatcat 7y ago
      What tools are you talking about? I thought that was due to many iterations of selection for specific traits.
      - dumbfoundded 7y ago
        Certain types of large manufacturing equipment must be built in a crop-specific way or at least benefit significantly by being designed for a particular crop. For example, all cannabis flower (non-extracted) is harvested by hand and then trimmed by hand. Recently machines were made to trim large amounts of cannabis efficiently with high quality. It used to take one person at least an hour to trim a pound of weed. Now a machine can do 10lbs a minute. Throughout the supply-chain, there are machines that must be built to support the physical scale. This isn't unique to cannabis, vaping had the same problem. The cartridges used to all be filled by hand until someone invested in the machinery. That what causes standards and grades to be created. None of that really exists in cannabis/hemp right now.
    - econcon 7y ago
      >Psychoactive properties weren't discovered until much later. It's known for atleast 5000years.
hadtodoit 7y ago
IIRC rice isn't very nutritious, it's just calorie dense. In that regard adding hemp seeds to your diet may do more in the long run.
- klingonopera 7y ago
  These are mostly myths, at best they are ignored, at worst, they perpetuate the assumption half the population in Asia would be nourishing themselves badly (since many thousands of years - seems a bit far-fetched, no?). https://doctor.ndtv.com/living-healthy/8-myths-about-rice-you-should-never-believe-1866263 https://doctor.ndtv.com/living-healthy/8-myths-about-rice-yo...
  - LargoLasskhyfv 7y ago
    Myth or not, ask people which have birds like Budgerigars, or watch it for your self. When you give them mixed food, they always go for the hemp seeds first, even by picking through maybe an ounce of corns/seeds until they get to the few hemp ones. Why is that?
    - econcon 7y ago
      Addict might go for heroine? Kid might go for Sugary drink or cereals or snack over something like broccoli What does it prove? People in south Asia atleast don't consume Rice alone, rice has handful of amino acids when it's coupled with lentils (of different kinds) which have other complementary amino acid profile it becomes a complete protein like any other protein from whey This is often smth which Indian people say, "bro our diet lacks protein". Yea what you consume everyday as "Dal bhaat rotti" if if it's protein then what it is?
      - LargoLasskhyfv 7y ago
        Addict might go for heroine? wasn't what i meant to imply, nor does it fit the profile of the hemp seeds in birdseed since they come from the sort hemp which doesn't make you high. More something like it's healthy and they know it. By whatever means...

monkeynotes 7y ago

Hemp is not the same strain as Cannabis producing plants, also Cannabis is harvested from the flower and so you don't typically get seeds.

nicehat 7y ago
This is a hilariously wrong sentence in multiple ways. Hemp :is: a strain of cannabis. You may have meant to say 'THC producing plants' which would still be technically wrong. While sensamilla is probably what most people are used to these days, that is not to say seeds are not involved / don't appear in capital C cannabis. I would bet $10, based purely on the deadpan authoritative delivery of completely factually wrong information, that you are either American or British. Close?
- RobertoG 7y ago
  >>" delivery of completely factually wrong information, that you are either American or British" Not the gp here, but I think that comment is uncalled for. I'm not American or British and I have been totally wrong, and convinced that I was right, many times. The gp was commenting in a normal tone. I think a simple correction should be enough.
  - nicehat 7y ago
    I'm American, and I agree people everywhere get things wrong without knowing. But buddy if you think Americans and British people don't do this more than other nations, then you must have missed the whole colonialism thing. No other nations have the same YouTube compilations where people on the street get asked if made up countries should be bombed - resulting in emphatic and authoritative confirmation that yes they need to be punished. If we're not even allowed to talk about the particular kind of dumb we have then how can we get better?
    - leetcrew 7y ago
      people might be more willing to engage with you if you didn't present the existence of youtube compilations as serious evidence.

clint 7y ago

Generally industrial scale cannabis is grown via cloning of feminized plants which generally do not produce seeds