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Let's cripple our project right from the beginning by including an ugly notch at the top, a "design feature" that tanked Essential, caused recent sales slip of

by bitL 7y ago

Let's cripple our project right from the beginning by including an ugly notch at the top, a "design feature" that tanked Essential, caused recent sales slip of new Nokia phones and forced even low-cost Chinese manufacturers to switch into drilling a circular hole in the display for placing camera in order to avoid its negative sales effects.

teekert 7y ago
/opinion
- baybal2 7y ago
  Actually a very sensible opinion. If anybody put a bare minimum effort to survey the market, they would've found that some no notch models are being sold solely because of that. If you make 2 similar models, one with notch, and one without the first will sink in sales, things are as simple as that. Look at sales stats for Mi Max 3. Despite good sales Mi kills it, and then get surprised how their other models didn't get any sales kick, and then resuming Mi Max production. Same with other brands having a "Waterloo moment" with models lacking 3.5mm jack. Samsung saw trashy sales on low and mid-level models without jacks, made models with jacks, then removed them again, and is now about to introduce new A and J series phones with jacks again. Some times they don't learn... I think the same thing was with removable batteries and tf cards. What was good for Apple, was a real poison for brands with a polar opposite identity to Apple. I attribute HTC's demise highhandedly to them denying removable storage, and jacking storage prices, while few power user brands were hammering that point. I can remember such cases where blindly chasing trendsetters kills many times, going back to 200X, and Nokia. So many brands went under chasing Nokia because they were perceived as "cheaper, worse Nokia's" just as today some brands became "worse Iphones"
  - teekert 7y ago
    Still think it is opinion, why not see it as 2 extra flaps of display at the top? Why not cover those areas with display if you can? I certainly agree on the removable battery though. I also hated that they removed the head phone jack. But I recently bought 16$ qcy bt headphones, never looked back. Personally I don't care much about notches and headphone jacks at all. The camera would now be my nr. 1 buying argument.
    - baybal2 7y ago
      > Still think it is opinion, why not see it as 2 extra flaps of display at the top? I have no idea, but sales stats are quite evident. Similar models with and without notch show that notched models sink in sales
    - notRobot 7y ago
      Because it leads to a very short status bar which annoys me a lot. And if I disable the notch to get a full status bar underneath it from settings, then the "flaps" get turned off system-wide for all apps so they're of no use. Now I've switched back to my old notch-less phone and am much happier.
  - lostmsu 7y ago
    Where did you hear about the continuation of Mi Max family?
    - baybal2 7y ago
      Mi Max 3 only, the whole family is still on ice

by bitL 7y ago

teekert 7y ago

/opinion

baybal2 7y ago
Actually a very sensible opinion. If anybody put a bare minimum effort to survey the market, they would've found that some no notch models are being sold solely because of that. If you make 2 similar models, one with notch, and one without the first will sink in sales, things are as simple as that. Look at sales stats for Mi Max 3. Despite good sales Mi kills it, and then get surprised how their other models didn't get any sales kick, and then resuming Mi Max production. Same with other brands having a "Waterloo moment" with models lacking 3.5mm jack. Samsung saw trashy sales on low and mid-level models without jacks, made models with jacks, then removed them again, and is now about to introduce new A and J series phones with jacks again. Some times they don't learn... I think the same thing was with removable batteries and tf cards. What was good for Apple, was a real poison for brands with a polar opposite identity to Apple. I attribute HTC's demise highhandedly to them denying removable storage, and jacking storage prices, while few power user brands were hammering that point. I can remember such cases where blindly chasing trendsetters kills many times, going back to 200X, and Nokia. So many brands went under chasing Nokia because they were perceived as "cheaper, worse Nokia's" just as today some brands became "worse Iphones"
- teekert 7y ago
  Still think it is opinion, why not see it as 2 extra flaps of display at the top? Why not cover those areas with display if you can? I certainly agree on the removable battery though. I also hated that they removed the head phone jack. But I recently bought 16$ qcy bt headphones, never looked back. Personally I don't care much about notches and headphone jacks at all. The camera would now be my nr. 1 buying argument.
  - baybal2 7y ago
    > Still think it is opinion, why not see it as 2 extra flaps of display at the top? I have no idea, but sales stats are quite evident. Similar models with and without notch show that notched models sink in sales
  - notRobot 7y ago
    Because it leads to a very short status bar which annoys me a lot. And if I disable the notch to get a full status bar underneath it from settings, then the "flaps" get turned off system-wide for all apps so they're of no use. Now I've switched back to my old notch-less phone and am much happier.
- lostmsu 7y ago
  Where did you hear about the continuation of Mi Max family?
  - baybal2 7y ago
    Mi Max 3 only, the whole family is still on ice