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What? This is absolutely the opposite of the consensus advice you'll get somewhere like r/personalfinance. It sounds like you're completely ignorant of the sub

What? This is absolutely the opposite of the consensus advice you'll get somewhere like r/personalfinance. It sounds like you're completely ignorant of the subs in question, and just spouting off whatever comes to mind.

michaelt 7y ago
I think tonyedgecombe is pointing out that relying on 'group consensus' is not a golden bullet, as the consensus revealed preference of the national population conflicts with the consensus advice of subreddits' self-selected populations
- TulliusCicero 7y ago
  Bit of a useless point then, isn't it? Of course group consensus of people who care about finance is going to be more useful to finance discussions than group consensus of the general population. And it's the former that we were discussing anyway. Not to mention what they're describing isn't a group consensus on financial advice, it's just the stereotype of lowest common denominator behavior. It's like suggesting that there's a group consensus that playing the lotto is sound financial wisdom just because a large number of people do participate in it.
dsfyu404ed 7y ago
It's basically the word for word consensus advice of decades past. At least two generations grew up in a world where "take out the biggest mortgage you can" was considered good advice by default. As history has proven that is not a consistently successful approach for individuals and has some pretty severe trade-offs at the societal level. I'm not sure if it was the point he was trying to make but in any case it should probably serve as cautionary tale that consensus is not necessarily correctness.
- TulliusCicero 7y ago
  But we're discussing the group consensus of a self-selected group of people interested in finance, who are nerding out about it on the internet, not the group consensus of the general population.
  - dsfyu404ed 7y ago
    "Take the biggest mortgage you can" became known by the general population because it was repeated again and again by every financial literacy magazine, talk show and newspaper advice column back in its day. If anything that is an even more refined interest group than Reddit because you needed more than an internet connection and an interest to get into it.

michaelt 7y ago

I think tonyedgecombe is pointing out that relying on 'group consensus' is not a golden bullet, as the consensus revealed preference of the national population conflicts with the consensus advice of subreddits' self-selected populations

TulliusCicero 7y ago
Bit of a useless point then, isn't it? Of course group consensus of people who care about finance is going to be more useful to finance discussions than group consensus of the general population. And it's the former that we were discussing anyway. Not to mention what they're describing isn't a group consensus on financial advice, it's just the stereotype of lowest common denominator behavior. It's like suggesting that there's a group consensus that playing the lotto is sound financial wisdom just because a large number of people do participate in it.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago

It's basically the word for word consensus advice of decades past. At least two generations grew up in a world where "take out the biggest mortgage you can" was considered good advice by default. As history has proven that is not a consistently successful approach for individuals and has some pretty severe trade-offs at the societal level. I'm not sure if it was the point he was trying to make but in any case it should probably serve as cautionary tale that consensus is not necessarily correctness.

TulliusCicero 7y ago
But we're discussing the group consensus of a self-selected group of people interested in finance, who are nerding out about it on the internet, not the group consensus of the general population.
- dsfyu404ed 7y ago
  "Take the biggest mortgage you can" became known by the general population because it was repeated again and again by every financial literacy magazine, talk show and newspaper advice column back in its day. If anything that is an even more refined interest group than Reddit because you needed more than an internet connection and an interest to get into it.