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Not a fan of authoritarian governments, and China's initial coverup of the virus is deplorable, BUT: 1. The reason they didn't pre-announce the quarantine was
by cameldrv 7y ago
Not a fan of authoritarian governments, and China's initial coverup of the virus is deplorable, BUT:
1. The reason they didn't pre-announce the quarantine was that it would defeat the purpose -- people would rush to leave ahead of the deadline.
2. Guy being kicked out of his college dorm: they had so many cases that they needed more space to isolate confirmed cases. They may have built a pre-fab hospital in a week, but that was nowhere near the capacity necessary. A college dorm is one of the better buildings if you need a building to turn into a makeshift hospital immediately. You've got a bunch of small individual rooms, kitchen facilities, and common areas that can be repurposed. The government determined that it was necessary to appropriate the building for the good of the city and did it.
And look at where we are here in the U.S. We had a two month head start, and we still can't do widespread testing, the virus is spreading undetected. China was strongly criticized for providing unreliable numbers, and here we are, now the CDC has simply stopped providing state by state data on testing, and stopped providing a total count of tests done. It's truly shameful, and I pray for the health of people in this country, especially older people.
- _bxg1 7y agoI don't think the corruption and bureaucratic incompetency in today's United States lessens the story about that in China. At least we're allowed to talk about it.
- c789a123 7y agoI think US gov has done quite well by cut air traffic with China after CCP announced that there is a plague going on around Jan 2x. But the problem is the plague has gone on at least 2 months in China until that time, so even North Korean which closed its border immediately after CCP announcement now has an outbreak. Before CCP made the announcement they suppressed info as much as possible and did nothing to control the spread. Until around the Jan 2x when it can not hide it anymore. Even after this, CCP still made WHO to lower the alert level of the world. Today's situation is the sole result of CCP's wrong doings and they should do a full accounting of it in the world court.
- Jommi 7y agoTwo months before January would be November. What source do you have saying that the outbreak started already then?
- c789a123 7y agoBy two months I mean until the time the CCP made public announcement around Jan 2x, relative to the reported date of first patient 2019-12-01, which is supported by CCP's own media (for eg: http://www.bjnews.com.cn/news/2020/02/23/693805.html http://www.bjnews.com.cn/news/2020/02/23/693805.html). A little bit off topic: for me, this first case looks very impossible to be the first one, and it further supports my theory that wuhan virus is a bio-weapon created by CCP and got leaked. That is why it is so hard to pinpoint the zero patient because CCP is hiding this info.
- koheripbal 7y agoThe Virologists that host the TWIV podcast cited some studies suggesting that the first cases were likely in October or November, which went undetected.
- Jommi 7y agoRight, got a link?
- koheripbal 7y agotwiv.tv
- n0rbwah 7y agoOfficially, there's been no outbreak in North Korea. Of course, there's no way to trust NK on this, but there's been no confirmation of cases in NK by another source (I'm discounting South Korean anti-NK propaganda as an unreliable source).
- thinkingemote 7y agoPeople within China are allowed to talk about it too. The story is that it was the officials in Wuhan who did the bad things and they have already all been sacked if not charged. They are not pointing the blame at the national government nor the ideology but a regional government and corrupt individuals. Indeed the story is that the national government helped the people against the corruption. I find it fascinating.