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I vehemently implore you to spend some time outside the Valley bubble.

bitwize 7y ago
This is Hackernews. What's outside the Valley bubble besides desert and the occasional poor soul who undergoes the indignity of growing old rather than Renewing through Carousel? :) I work on the East Coast at a company that's over 100 years old -- though they are modernizing their development efforts (something I'm heavily involved with). And literally everyone else in our portfolio uses VSCode to develop with except for legacy Java stuff which is usually manipulated with Eclipse. A Triplebyte study from two years ago showed that most developers undergoing their interview process used Visual Studio Code: https://triplebyte.com/blog/editor-report-the-rise-of-visual-studio-code https://triplebyte.com/blog/editor-report-the-rise-of-visual... While Triplebyte is Silly Valley, presumably they have clients outside the bubble.
- davidy123 7y ago
  There's a pretty good vim mode for vscode.
  - Johan-bjareholt 7y ago
    Any half-decent VIM user knows that there are no good vim emulators, only ones which do the absolute basics right. That includes vim mode for vscode which last time I used it even lagged when using it.
    - davidy123 7y ago
      Well, yeah, not sure why you even wrote this except to get some snark in. The point is the trade off of having the basic if imperfect operation of vi/vim, along with what vscode offers. That includes connecting with the large community of vscode users.
    - beatgammit 7y ago
      The only vim mode that didn't make me rage quit was evil mode in emacs. I use mostly vanilla vim, and there's always something that isn't implemented or isn't implemented properly.
- michaelmrose 7y ago
  Aren't Emacs, vim, visual studio code all in the same class of smart text editors with plug-ins that provide ide features? I don't think different default functionality fundamentally changes its class.
  - int_19h 7y ago
    Not really. VSCode has LSP and DAP support of of the box, for example.

This is Hackernews. What's outside the Valley bubble besides desert and the occasional poor soul who undergoes the indignity of growing old rather than Renewing through Carousel? :) I work on the East Coast at a company that's over 100 years old -- though they are modernizing their development efforts (something I'm heavily involved with). And literally everyone else in our portfolio uses VSCode to develop with except for legacy Java stuff which is usually manipulated with Eclipse. A Triplebyte study from two years ago showed that most developers undergoing their interview process used Visual Studio Code: https://triplebyte.com/blog/editor-report-the-rise-of-visual-studio-code https://triplebyte.com/blog/editor-report-the-rise-of-visual... While Triplebyte is Silly Valley, presumably they have clients outside the bubble.

davidy123 7y ago
There's a pretty good vim mode for vscode.
- Johan-bjareholt 7y ago
  Any half-decent VIM user knows that there are no good vim emulators, only ones which do the absolute basics right. That includes vim mode for vscode which last time I used it even lagged when using it.
  - davidy123 7y ago
    Well, yeah, not sure why you even wrote this except to get some snark in. The point is the trade off of having the basic if imperfect operation of vi/vim, along with what vscode offers. That includes connecting with the large community of vscode users.
  - beatgammit 7y ago
    The only vim mode that didn't make me rage quit was evil mode in emacs. I use mostly vanilla vim, and there's always something that isn't implemented or isn't implemented properly.
michaelmrose 7y ago
Aren't Emacs, vim, visual studio code all in the same class of smart text editors with plug-ins that provide ide features? I don't think different default functionality fundamentally changes its class.
- int_19h 7y ago
  Not really. VSCode has LSP and DAP support of of the box, for example.