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I don't want to be cruel but I hope they learn a valuable lesson sooner or later.

thisisnico 7y ago
I feel like the people making these decisions don't understand at all or have zero respect/regard for IT and it's importance in industry.
- busterarm 7y ago
  The margins in global logistics right now are razor thin. Large companies have been outright failing in the last few years. Maersk is probably more concerned with survival.
  - crispyambulance 7y ago
    > Maersk is probably more concerned with survival. Perhaps, but it's only ~150 IT jobs which were proven to be critical during an epic cyber attack. Is Maersk really hanging by a thread that thin?
    - thu2111 7y ago
      Probably they look everywhere for savings. I think there's a more obvious problem that it feels like everyone is blind to. Do we really think these IT staffers are seen by their management as heros? For sure they aren't. Maersk was nearly unique in how badly it was taken out by that virus. Job number one of any IT department: don't let a virus destroy your network. They completely failed at that and the business paid a huge price. The causes were as you may expect - not keeping up with Windows updates, all the usual stuff. Not having any offline backups of critical infrastructure. Things they were trusted to get right. Are maersk management likely to be losing sleep over replacing this team? Probably not. What are they going to argue exactly - the Indians won't do as good a job as they did? I know it's harsh. I'm sure pointing this out won't go down well. But in the end they're not in a strong position to argue for their jobs.
atonse 7y ago
If by they you mean the greedy and short-sighted management? They won't. They'll get golden parachutes if they get fired.
heartbeats 7y ago
They will. Just look at Boeing. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/boeing-s-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/boeing-s-... Penny wise, pound foolish.
philjohn 7y ago
RBS did in 2012, didn't change anything: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_RBS_Group_computer_system_problems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_RBS_Group_computer_system...
- pas 7y ago
  How do we know it didn't change anything?
  - philjohn 7y ago
    Those jobs didn't come back onshore
AmVess 7y ago
They will absolutely get kicked in the nuts at some point in the future. They obviously didn't learn from the ransomware incident, and look to be actively opening themselves up for another attack with this move.

I feel like the people making these decisions don't understand at all or have zero respect/regard for IT and it's importance in industry.

busterarm 7y ago
The margins in global logistics right now are razor thin. Large companies have been outright failing in the last few years. Maersk is probably more concerned with survival.
- crispyambulance 7y ago
  > Maersk is probably more concerned with survival. Perhaps, but it's only ~150 IT jobs which were proven to be critical during an epic cyber attack. Is Maersk really hanging by a thread that thin?
  - thu2111 7y ago
    Probably they look everywhere for savings. I think there's a more obvious problem that it feels like everyone is blind to. Do we really think these IT staffers are seen by their management as heros? For sure they aren't. Maersk was nearly unique in how badly it was taken out by that virus. Job number one of any IT department: don't let a virus destroy your network. They completely failed at that and the business paid a huge price. The causes were as you may expect - not keeping up with Windows updates, all the usual stuff. Not having any offline backups of critical infrastructure. Things they were trusted to get right. Are maersk management likely to be losing sleep over replacing this team? Probably not. What are they going to argue exactly - the Indians won't do as good a job as they did? I know it's harsh. I'm sure pointing this out won't go down well. But in the end they're not in a strong position to argue for their jobs.

atonse 7y ago

If by they you mean the greedy and short-sighted management? They won't. They'll get golden parachutes if they get fired.

heartbeats 7y ago

They will. Just look at Boeing. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/boeing-s-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/boeing-s-... Penny wise, pound foolish.

philjohn 7y ago

RBS did in 2012, didn't change anything: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_RBS_Group_computer_system_problems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_RBS_Group_computer_system...

pas 7y ago
How do we know it didn't change anything?
- philjohn 7y ago
  Those jobs didn't come back onshore

AmVess 7y ago

They will absolutely get kicked in the nuts at some point in the future. They obviously didn't learn from the ransomware incident, and look to be actively opening themselves up for another attack with this move.