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A reminder: The risk of getting COVID-19 in the U.S. is currently low. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/share-facts.html https://www.cdc.gov/co

by 99_00 7y ago

A reminder: The risk of getting COVID-19 in the U.S. is currently low. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/share-facts.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/share-facts.... Also, expect positive cases to explode in number over the next two weeks as testing capacity comes on line and massive number of tests are administered.

rolltiide 7y ago
I want to get it to get it over with. Kind of weird that San Francisco isn't ground zero for this in USA yet. Hope the news of reinfection complications is wrong.
- Johnny555 7y ago
  I want to get it to get it over with I want to avoid it completely until a vaccine is ready. Just like I want to avoid the flu.
- themagician 7y ago
  It might be ground zero. No one been testing for it, those under 50 seem to exhibit symptoms so mild they aren’t even worth going to the doctor for, most people go to the doctor only as a last resort because of deductibles, and healthcare professionals have likely passed it off as the flu. Hundreds to thousands die from the flu every week. They don’t test them all. If even 1% are misdiagnosed the infection could be far more widespread than realized. Even if the fatality rate is 2%, that means the estimated number of infections in Washington is 100+. For every person who dies you can figure 50-200 infections. With the flu, we model and estimate infections. With the coronavirus we seem to only be counting confirmed infections. This change in methodology will make the total infections look smaller and the fatality rate (possibly) arbitrarily higher as a result.
- 99_00 7y ago
  If you're going to get it, it's defiantly better to get it now because you'll have the best Drs in your city looking after you before the flood of patients come in and they are overwhelmed.
  - Johnny555 7y ago
    I'd rather wait until after the big wave of infections hit so there's still bed space available, but doctors know exactly how to treat this. I'd rather be the 100th case of COVID-19 my doctor has treated than the 1st.
    - pbourke 7y ago
      Yeah seriously. Case histories and treatment protocols in the US have yet to be published aside from the one for the first patient.
- throwaway1777 7y ago
  FYI you can't just "get it over with". Some people have been infected multiple times already.
  - rolltiide 7y ago
    Its almost like my post was made for your specific comment. Anyway, hope the news of reinfection complications is premature and incorrect
- 8fingerlouie 7y ago
  I feel the exact same way. Please just let me get it, and i can stop reading/hearing/watching news about it and just get on with my life. Going on a trip to somewhere, screening for Corvid-19.. "don't worry, i had it and survived". Quarantine a hotel/cruise ship/whatever - "yeah, have fun, i'm out of here". This whole thing is (probably) blown out of proportions. Most of the known cases only present mild symptoms, and many are even asymptomatic, and you have to add to that the probably 10x cases that are never reported because in the northen hemisphere it is flu season and common cold season, and everybody is experiencing symptoms that could be Corvid-19, or just a regular common cold.
Johnny555 7y ago
With the limited amount of testing that's been done so far, I don't know that anyone can really provide a reasonable estimate of risk. That fact chart seems to be out of date: The risk of getting COVID-19 in the U.S. is currently low Some people who have traveled to places where many people have gotten sick with COVID-19 may be monitored by health officials to protect their health and the health of other people in the community. Community spread has now been confirmed in a number of places across the USA. That doesn't mean anyone needs to panic, but continue taking reasonable precautions and if companies can let their workers work from home without excessive impact, it seems that doing so is a reasonable precaution.
- 99_00 7y ago
  The very sick will present themselves at hospitals and get tested. Form that you can estimate the total number of infected. >Community spread has now been confirmed in a number of places across the USA. Yes, but the risk of getting the virus in the US is still low because there are perhaps thousands infected and 340 million people in the country.
  - Johnny555 7y ago
    I live and work in a metro area of about 3 million people. This area was pretty heavily hit be Coronavirus with 6 deaths so far, so let's say there are 3000 infected people walking around. So far, not too bad, right? I only have a 1/1000 chance of running across one of those people. But, I take the bus to work, which holds around 50 people, and any of those people could be harboring the virus (possibly completely symptom free), so my chance of just being exposed to it on the bus is 1/20. That ignores the chance of being exposed from the ~100 people on my office floor, or the ~200 or so people in the office cafeteria, etc. Though the bus is the most likely avenue of exposure -- I trust my coworker to stay home when they feel ill, but not everyone that rides the bus has the luxury to take sick leave when they need it (or even to visit the doctor when they are ill) Granted, just being exposed is no guarantee that I'll contract the disease and I don't know what that chance is, but my risk of exposure is not exactly low. I do wash my hands and try to avoid touching my face, etc, but none of that matters if the guy standing in the bus in front of me sneezes without properly covering his mouth and I inhale his viral mist.
vikramkr 7y ago
yes, the risk is low, and proactive action taken like this will help keep it low. The risk is low until it isn't - and suspending travel while suggesting vulnerable populations avoid coming in to work will help keep the risk as low as possible for as long as possible. If you read ahead on the CDC summary page (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/summary.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/summary.html), you can see that they say that "It’s likely that at some point, widespread transmission of COVID-19 in the United States will occur."
- 99_00 7y ago
  If you see the CDC as an authority then you'd also see Stripes policy as overkill since CDC isn't recommending people work from home or cancel travel within the US or restrict visitors to their offices.
  - rajup 7y ago
    The CDC does not really inspire confidence given the botched manner in which testing was conducted and the lack of strong leadership.
    - 99_00 7y ago
      Who is a better authority?
      - throwGuardian 7y ago
        Definitely the payments company with zero medical, specifically infectious pandemic training
      - eric-hu 7y ago
        The Hong Kong government has actually done a solid job so far, considering they share a land border and high speed rail system with China. NPR made the case that Hong Kong sacrificed too much for containment, but the underlying message is that their containment is working. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/01/810392094/hong-kong-has-contained-coronavirus-so-far-but-at-a-significant-cost https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/01/8103920... Edit: HK center for health protection https://www.chp.gov.hk/en/index.html https://www.chp.gov.hk/en/index.html

by 99_00 7y ago

rolltiide 7y ago

I want to get it to get it over with. Kind of weird that San Francisco isn't ground zero for this in USA yet. Hope the news of reinfection complications is wrong.

Johnny555 7y ago
I want to get it to get it over with I want to avoid it completely until a vaccine is ready. Just like I want to avoid the flu.
themagician 7y ago
It might be ground zero. No one been testing for it, those under 50 seem to exhibit symptoms so mild they aren’t even worth going to the doctor for, most people go to the doctor only as a last resort because of deductibles, and healthcare professionals have likely passed it off as the flu. Hundreds to thousands die from the flu every week. They don’t test them all. If even 1% are misdiagnosed the infection could be far more widespread than realized. Even if the fatality rate is 2%, that means the estimated number of infections in Washington is 100+. For every person who dies you can figure 50-200 infections. With the flu, we model and estimate infections. With the coronavirus we seem to only be counting confirmed infections. This change in methodology will make the total infections look smaller and the fatality rate (possibly) arbitrarily higher as a result.
99_00 7y ago
If you're going to get it, it's defiantly better to get it now because you'll have the best Drs in your city looking after you before the flood of patients come in and they are overwhelmed.
- Johnny555 7y ago
  I'd rather wait until after the big wave of infections hit so there's still bed space available, but doctors know exactly how to treat this. I'd rather be the 100th case of COVID-19 my doctor has treated than the 1st.
  - pbourke 7y ago
    Yeah seriously. Case histories and treatment protocols in the US have yet to be published aside from the one for the first patient.
throwaway1777 7y ago
FYI you can't just "get it over with". Some people have been infected multiple times already.
- rolltiide 7y ago
  Its almost like my post was made for your specific comment. Anyway, hope the news of reinfection complications is premature and incorrect
8fingerlouie 7y ago
I feel the exact same way. Please just let me get it, and i can stop reading/hearing/watching news about it and just get on with my life. Going on a trip to somewhere, screening for Corvid-19.. "don't worry, i had it and survived". Quarantine a hotel/cruise ship/whatever - "yeah, have fun, i'm out of here". This whole thing is (probably) blown out of proportions. Most of the known cases only present mild symptoms, and many are even asymptomatic, and you have to add to that the probably 10x cases that are never reported because in the northen hemisphere it is flu season and common cold season, and everybody is experiencing symptoms that could be Corvid-19, or just a regular common cold.

Johnny555 7y ago

With the limited amount of testing that's been done so far, I don't know that anyone can really provide a reasonable estimate of risk. That fact chart seems to be out of date: The risk of getting COVID-19 in the U.S. is currently low Some people who have traveled to places where many people have gotten sick with COVID-19 may be monitored by health officials to protect their health and the health of other people in the community. Community spread has now been confirmed in a number of places across the USA. That doesn't mean anyone needs to panic, but continue taking reasonable precautions and if companies can let their workers work from home without excessive impact, it seems that doing so is a reasonable precaution.

99_00 7y ago
The very sick will present themselves at hospitals and get tested. Form that you can estimate the total number of infected. >Community spread has now been confirmed in a number of places across the USA. Yes, but the risk of getting the virus in the US is still low because there are perhaps thousands infected and 340 million people in the country.
- Johnny555 7y ago
  I live and work in a metro area of about 3 million people. This area was pretty heavily hit be Coronavirus with 6 deaths so far, so let's say there are 3000 infected people walking around. So far, not too bad, right? I only have a 1/1000 chance of running across one of those people. But, I take the bus to work, which holds around 50 people, and any of those people could be harboring the virus (possibly completely symptom free), so my chance of just being exposed to it on the bus is 1/20. That ignores the chance of being exposed from the ~100 people on my office floor, or the ~200 or so people in the office cafeteria, etc. Though the bus is the most likely avenue of exposure -- I trust my coworker to stay home when they feel ill, but not everyone that rides the bus has the luxury to take sick leave when they need it (or even to visit the doctor when they are ill) Granted, just being exposed is no guarantee that I'll contract the disease and I don't know what that chance is, but my risk of exposure is not exactly low. I do wash my hands and try to avoid touching my face, etc, but none of that matters if the guy standing in the bus in front of me sneezes without properly covering his mouth and I inhale his viral mist.

vikramkr 7y ago

yes, the risk is low, and proactive action taken like this will help keep it low. The risk is low until it isn't - and suspending travel while suggesting vulnerable populations avoid coming in to work will help keep the risk as low as possible for as long as possible. If you read ahead on the CDC summary page (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/summary.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/summary.html), you can see that they say that "It’s likely that at some point, widespread transmission of COVID-19 in the United States will occur."

99_00 7y ago
If you see the CDC as an authority then you'd also see Stripes policy as overkill since CDC isn't recommending people work from home or cancel travel within the US or restrict visitors to their offices.
- rajup 7y ago
  The CDC does not really inspire confidence given the botched manner in which testing was conducted and the lack of strong leadership.
  - 99_00 7y ago
    Who is a better authority?
    - throwGuardian 7y ago
      Definitely the payments company with zero medical, specifically infectious pandemic training
    - eric-hu 7y ago
      The Hong Kong government has actually done a solid job so far, considering they share a land border and high speed rail system with China. NPR made the case that Hong Kong sacrificed too much for containment, but the underlying message is that their containment is working. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/01/810392094/hong-kong-has-contained-coronavirus-so-far-but-at-a-significant-cost https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/01/8103920... Edit: HK center for health protection https://www.chp.gov.hk/en/index.html https://www.chp.gov.hk/en/index.html