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So, when I went to pet a tiger, I was told to wash up because they carry salmonella. Fun fact: big cats carry all sorts of strange bacteria because they eat raw
by mathgladiator 7y ago
So, when I went to pet a tiger, I was told to wash up because they carry salmonella. Fun fact: big cats carry all sorts of strange bacteria because they eat raw meat and lick themselves.
- meowface 7y agoI believe this applies to all cats. If a bite or scratch fully penetrates skin, you're very likely going to get an infection.
- ed_balls 7y agoYou will became immune to it over time. My first scratched used to takes 2 weeks to heal. After a year it only took 2-3 days.
- CoolGuySteve 7y agoHumans are the weirdest omnivore. The only reason we can eat meat is because 1-2 hundred million years of our homoerectus ancestors predigesting meat by cooking it. At our evolutionary roots we are a tech bubble, but that tech, cooking, was discovered by a species that we would put in a zoo if it was still around.
- ajross 7y agoAlmost all apes will eat meat, actually. It's not a primary part of their diet, but it's regular enough that it's been observed pervasively. And they digest it just fine. It's true that we're weird because we cook it, but the weirdness isn't that it fundamentally changed our diet[1], but because it changed our gut. Our intestines shrunk a lot when we became cooking scavengers, to the point where we actually can't productively eat the diets that our ape ancestors did anymore, including their raw meat consumption. [1] Though it did change our diet: we went from mostly-plant gatherers to mostly-meat scavengers, which required (or maybe the causality went the other way) that we leave the forest for grasslands where dead animals were larger and easier to find.
- senorjazz 7y ago> Almost all apes will eat meat, actually Are you sure on that? 50% of great apes eat meat. Of the lesser apes, gibbons will eat a tiny proportion. > Non-human apes usually eat a small amount of raw animal foods such as insects or eggs Arguable insects are meat, but if you invited someone round to eat some meat, I don't think they would expect insects so think that can be ruled out. So some, but certainly not "almost all". And the ones that do, it is a tiny % of their diet, relative to most humans
- dboreham 7y agoI don't know about apes but definitely deer will eat meat from time to time.
- ajross 7y agoInsects are meat, yes. Are prawns/crab/lobster "meat"? Ocean arthropods are much closer to insects than they are to vertebrates. Obviously the question was about digestive suitability, not culinary aesthetics. And apes eat bugs, and can digest them just fine.
- voldacar 7y agoI think you mean 1-2 hundred thousand years. But 1-2 hundred million would definitely make for an interesting alternate history
- nerdponx 7y agoI prefer to imagine that either there was no Cretaceous extinction, or that some Troodontids survived it, and went on to develop more useful forelimbs & human-like sentience. Imagine if we were reptile-bird people instead of primates.
- arunix 7y agoI think they meant 1-2 million years, which is how long ago homo erectus appeared. ~2 hundred thousand years is the age of homo sapiens.
- dntbnmpls 7y ago> The only reason we can eat meat is because 1-2 hundred million years of our homoerectus ancestors predigesting meat by cooking it. Not true. Chimps, our closest relative, eat meat which means our common ancestor also ate meat. So not only have humans been eating meat before cooking, our ancestors going back millions of years also ate meat. Also, human populations, like the inuit, eat meat without cooking. It's quite a task to start a fire in the frozen arctic. Anthony Bourdain had a show on the inuits a a while ago. And that's not including human populations throughout the world that eat insects/etc. Cooking is what allowed humans to eat more meat and more efficiently, but it's absurd to claim humans only started eating meat after learning to cook.
- ptah 7y agoit is not absurd. cooking would have helped ease the evolutionary transition to being able to digest meat. aside from that we are still very poor at digesting meat. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/red-meat-processed-meat-death-mortality-health-cancer-heart-disease-vegetarian-vegan-diet-a7016986.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/red-meat-processe...
- dntbnmpls 7y ago> it is not absurd It is absurd because we know it is factually incorrect. That claim is as absurd as flat earther's claim. > cooking would have helped ease the evolutionary transition to being able to digest meat. There was no evolutionary transition because our human and non-human ancestors all ate meat. We didn't evolve to digest meat, we evolved from meat eaters. > aside from that we are still very poor at digesting meat. No. We are very poor at digesting vegetation. We certainly aren't poor at digesting meat. We just digest it better by cooking it. The same for vegetation. > https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/red-meat-processe.. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/red-meat-processe.... How did I know you'd link to this nonsense? Also, the independent barely qualifies as news. Do you know why vegans are viewed as the culinary equivalent to flat earthers or anti-vaxxers? Because you deny history, science and common sense for your agenda. If you don't like meat, then fine, don't eat it. It's your loss. But don't lie about history, evolution, etc. You might win a few people to your cult but the vast majority people will see right through you and be put off.
- freeone3000 7y agoSteak tartare and sushi exist.
- mikekchar 7y agoIf you have a large muscle and you keep it clean, the inside is especially clean. As soon as you cut it, the inside will be likely to get infected pretty quickly. That's why you don't make steak tartar from super market ground beef. Similarly, you can eat raw fish (if you don't worry about parasites), but you pretty much want to eat them right out of the water. As soon as you cut it and leave it alone for a while, it can start to go off. This is, in fact, the origin of sushi. Originally, people in the interior of the country couldn't eat fish because you couldn't transport it without going off. Instead, they would pickle it. This pickling eventually made its way to the rice. Most Edo period sushi used pickled fish.
- thomasfromcdnjs 7y agoBeen eating all sorts of low quality raw meat my whole life with no problems. (usually buy organic etc) I find all the science about it contrary to the actual personal experience. As for the point that cooking helps digestion in another comment, again it makes absolutely no sense to me. After eating 200g of sliced raw beef my stomach feels amazing, way better for digestion. The more I cook meat, the more bloated I feel etc (I've also ate raw chicken every now and then for 15 years with no problems)
- uncletammy 7y agoI would love to know why you regularly eat raw meat
- jessaustin 7y agoNot OP, but it does taste better.
- Nasrudith 7y ago
- pvaldes 7y agoWe evolved gut cells able to release Chlorhidric acid at PH=1. This stuff is sold to clean pipes and if you put a teeth in a glass at this PH it will slowly dissolve. We produce bottles of this stuff each day. Cooking food helps to avoid other problems, but we are a species perfectly able to digest a chunk of raw animal muscle with just a little burp. This kind of specialized cells will not appear in a weekend just by starting to cook food.
- superpermutat0r 7y agoBut that adaptation is not a meat eating specialization. Stomach acids are rarely the adaptation, it is the digestive enzymes or gut bacteria that are the main drivers. And humans have none specialized for raw meat. Cows can easily live and thrive on fishmeal but that does not mean the adaptations happened so cows can eat fishmeal.
- pvaldes 7y agoIn this case is probably an inherited trait. Cows and Dolphins are related.
- jessaustin 7y agoChlorhidric Does this mean "hydrochloric"?
- nitwit005 7y agoHumans eat plenty of uncooked meat. There's truly raw meat like suishi and sashimi, as well as cured meats that are never cooked, but made safe through the curing process. A lot of cooking is just to avoid issues with bacteria and parasites.
- xaedes 7y ago100-200 million years is way too much to be supported by our scientific consensus: Wikipedia on "Control of fire by early humans": Claims for the earliest definitive evidence of control of fire by a member of Homo range from 1.7 to 0.2 million years ago (Mya). Evidence for the 'microscopic traces of wood ash' as controlled use of fire by Homo erectus, beginning some 1,000,000 years ago, has wide scholarly support. Flint blades burned in fires roughly 300,000 years ago were found near fossils of early but not entirely modern Homo sapiens in Morocco. Fire was used regularly and systematically by early modern humans to heat treat silcrete stone to increase its flake-ability for the purpose of toolmaking approximately 164,000 years ago at the South African site of Pinnacle Point. Evidence of widespread control of fire by anatomically modern humans dates to approximately 125,000 years ago. Wikipedia on "Mammals": Mammals diverged from reptiles and birds in the late Triassic, 201kk-227kk years ago. Wikipedia on "Dinosaur": They first appeared during the Triassic period, between 243 and 233.23 million years ago, although the exact origin and timing of the evolution of dinosaurs is the subject of active research
- dntbnmpls 7y ago> Fun fact: big cats carry all sorts of strange bacteria because they eat raw meat and lick themselves. Pretty much all wild animals have strange bacteria, parasites, etc. The reason why tigers have strange bacteria, parasites, etc is because they eat the herbivores that have bacteria, parasites, etc. The herbivores have bacteria, parasites, etc because they eat vegetation with bacteria and shit which has parasites/eggs on them. Nature is a harsh place with lots of nasty things. Most humans had strange bacteria, parasites and all kind of nasty stuff until we separated ourselves from nature.