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>> You can either pay one person (out of a - growing- pool of tens of millions of willing drivers) ~$15 an hour (depending on geography) in a $20k car or you ca
by smallgovt 7y ago
>> You can either pay one person (out of a - growing- pool of tens of millions of willing drivers) ~$15 an hour (depending on geography) in a $20k car or you can pay very little per hour in a 250k for the car + a gigantic engineering team + compute infrastructure. It can make sense on a large scale, but it'll be hard to do.
I believe this $250K figure will end up being off by a multiple of 2. As an example, the cost of LIDAR (the most expensive piece of many SDC's) has dropped by an order of magnitude over the past couple years. (A quick google search for a source on this claim yields: https://qz.com/924212/what-it-really-costs-to-turn-a-car-into-a-self-driving-vehicle/ https://qz.com/924212/what-it-really-costs-to-turn-a-car-int...)
The biggest questions around SDC's seems to really be around safety & feasibility. If these criteria are met, I can't imagine the overall cost per mile driven will be higher than manual labor.
And, even if autonomous driving doesn't undercut on price, they will beat human drivers on both quality & convenience. Most people don't enjoy having a human driver who sometimes smells bad and tries to talk to you (not to mention the uptick in assault reports). And, since the cost of under-utilization will be much lower for SDC's, you can bet the average wait time for SDC's will be lower than Uber.
>> There's a general theme here: It's not enough to teach a computer to do something as good as a human, you have to undercut on price as well.
I think the more apt statement is: Consumers care about price, quality, safety, and convenience. A winning solution has to be significantly better in at least one of these categories (price being only one possibility).
- mxschumacher 7y agoUber does 40m rides a month with human drivers, I don't believe people are generally turned off by the smell of their drivers. The rating system is pretty brutal. I've certainly never had this problem. Uber doesn't pay for the downtime, its the drivers that take all the losses. I find the security question interesting: Would you rather have a human in the car to potentially protect you from outside attackers, or is the general fear that the driver him/herself with assault you? I think with cameras and identity checks the risk from the driver can be reduced. Regarding your last point: Yes, do the same for less or something better for the same, both are possible paths to winning in the marketplace.
- kayoone 7y ago> Most people don't enjoy having a human driver who sometimes smells bad and tries to talk to you god forbid another human being trying to make smalltalk.