I have to concur with you mate, I've used Clojure now for 6 years in 2 startups and I can almost count on 2 hands the number of times I've had to interop direct

I have to concur with you mate, I've used Clojure now for 6 years in 2 startups and I can almost count on 2 hands the number of times I've had to interop directly with Java classes to get something to work.