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Nice way to show the content. Really brings home the fact that nothing much has changed for 2020, only getting worse. > When CA was closed down many employees

by harikb 7y ago

Nice way to show the content. Really brings home the fact that nothing much has changed for 2020, only getting worse. > When CA was closed down many employees simply moved to new companies doing the exact same thing. One of the more well known of these is Emerdata, not just sharing some of the same workers from CA but also funded by the same family. > Not everyone is aware, but CA was just a small part of a parent organisation called SCL. Pretty much all of the companies shown (in blue) on the left are/were part of this group.

at-fates-hands 7y ago
>> When CA was closed down many employees simply moved to new companies doing the exact same thing. I'm not really sure why this is such a surprise. Think about the dot com boom. People were hopping all over the place. I remember one friend who was a developer and chased the money from company to company to company. All the companies wanted to be the next "future of the internet backbone" technology companies. I would imagine its the same here. You have a specific set of skills, when one company gets shut down, you hop to the next company doing the same thing where you can continue utilizing the skills you were using at the last company. To me, this is just standard career trajectory. The fact the work they're doing is morally questionable obviously doesn't concern them when they're making fat money doing it.
nickbauman 7y ago
Here's a post that has been on HN before covers what phase of technology adoption we're in. https://idlewords.com/talks/ancient_web.htm https://idlewords.com/talks/ancient_web.htm Basically we've seen this kind of cultural manipulation on a massive scale before more than once. The last time it happened the manipulators were people like Joseph Goebbels. Remember the first thing the Nazi's did when they annexed a territory was to seize all forms of mass communication. Radios were replaced with new radios that could only be tuned to Nazi stations. But I heard from a talk given by a Hungarian Jew, Robert Holczer, who was secretly working for the Antifa in the city of Prague that was under control of the Nazis in the 40s. Even when listening to Nazi radio with their propaganda, he could tell when the tide had turned against Germany. There are always clues, he said; He figured out that the Normandy Invasion was successful by listening to Nazi Propaganda, for example. Eventually the culture-hacking turns against the hackers.
- onefuncman 7y ago
  Is there any chance there's a recording of the talk by Robert Holczer, may peace be upon him? edit: found a recording and a transcript, https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504887 https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504887
- 3eto 7y ago
  > Eventually the culture-hacking turns against the hackers. An undecided voter told MSNBC their cynical coverage of Sanders made her angry enough she said ‘Okay, Bernie’s got my vote.' On live TV. https://youtu.be/rdCL6CxiBmk https://youtu.be/rdCL6CxiBmk

by harikb 7y ago

at-fates-hands 7y ago

>> When CA was closed down many employees simply moved to new companies doing the exact same thing. I'm not really sure why this is such a surprise. Think about the dot com boom. People were hopping all over the place. I remember one friend who was a developer and chased the money from company to company to company. All the companies wanted to be the next "future of the internet backbone" technology companies. I would imagine its the same here. You have a specific set of skills, when one company gets shut down, you hop to the next company doing the same thing where you can continue utilizing the skills you were using at the last company. To me, this is just standard career trajectory. The fact the work they're doing is morally questionable obviously doesn't concern them when they're making fat money doing it.

nickbauman 7y ago

Here's a post that has been on HN before covers what phase of technology adoption we're in. https://idlewords.com/talks/ancient_web.htm https://idlewords.com/talks/ancient_web.htm Basically we've seen this kind of cultural manipulation on a massive scale before more than once. The last time it happened the manipulators were people like Joseph Goebbels. Remember the first thing the Nazi's did when they annexed a territory was to seize all forms of mass communication. Radios were replaced with new radios that could only be tuned to Nazi stations. But I heard from a talk given by a Hungarian Jew, Robert Holczer, who was secretly working for the Antifa in the city of Prague that was under control of the Nazis in the 40s. Even when listening to Nazi radio with their propaganda, he could tell when the tide had turned against Germany. There are always clues, he said; He figured out that the Normandy Invasion was successful by listening to Nazi Propaganda, for example. Eventually the culture-hacking turns against the hackers.

onefuncman 7y ago
Is there any chance there's a recording of the talk by Robert Holczer, may peace be upon him? edit: found a recording and a transcript, https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504887 https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504887
3eto 7y ago
> Eventually the culture-hacking turns against the hackers. An undecided voter told MSNBC their cynical coverage of Sanders made her angry enough she said ‘Okay, Bernie’s got my vote.' On live TV. https://youtu.be/rdCL6CxiBmk https://youtu.be/rdCL6CxiBmk