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Care to explain the down-voting?

Loughla 7y ago
I'll take a stab at why you're being down-voted.: >case fatality ratio (CFR) is around 2%, which is 20x higher than the flu. [Citation needed] >This number is likely to rise when ICUs are becoming over-constrained and cannot take new patients. This is already happening in the north of Italy as we speak. [Citation Needed] I can find citations for crowded hospitals in popular media, but nothing about the death rate increasing. >Third, there are reports showing lasting damage to kidney and lung tissue (sponge-like structures). Even when surviving COVID-19, previously healthy people might become chronically ill. [Major Citation Needed] >very stringent measures are required [Citation Needed] That's probably why. There are 4 claims you've made that need to be backed up with facts.
- edejong 7y ago
  HN is not Wikipedia. I am more than happy to provide evidence for my claims, but I'd be downvoting almost every single comment on HN if those were the requirements. The CFR is easy to find with a Google search. There are multiple studies currently providing strong lower and upper bounds on CFR. My second statement has the word 'likely' in it. W.r.t. Italy, I am talking about an Italian media article describing over-constrained hospitals and the provisioning of military field hospitals. Third statement has some evidence in other parts of the thread. Fourth statement: many, many experts are warning that we are doing too little to late. The need for a response is logical given the high R0, CFR and needed hospitalization. If needed, I can provide some links, but going to my next meeting right now.
  - Loughla 7y ago
    HN is not wikipedia, correct. But there is a baseline for expectation, from what I can tell. If you're going to make claims of fact, especially for something controversial, you need to support with facts. That's your job as the person making the claim. Otherwise, you need to put a sentence in there that all of these things are just your opinion. And your response to me is just more hand-waving "i'm right i'm right" with zero content. You're still doing it.

I'll take a stab at why you're being down-voted.: >case fatality ratio (CFR) is around 2%, which is 20x higher than the flu. [Citation needed] >This number is likely to rise when ICUs are becoming over-constrained and cannot take new patients. This is already happening in the north of Italy as we speak. [Citation Needed] I can find citations for crowded hospitals in popular media, but nothing about the death rate increasing. >Third, there are reports showing lasting damage to kidney and lung tissue (sponge-like structures). Even when surviving COVID-19, previously healthy people might become chronically ill. [Major Citation Needed] >very stringent measures are required [Citation Needed] That's probably why. There are 4 claims you've made that need to be backed up with facts.

edejong 7y ago
HN is not Wikipedia. I am more than happy to provide evidence for my claims, but I'd be downvoting almost every single comment on HN if those were the requirements. The CFR is easy to find with a Google search. There are multiple studies currently providing strong lower and upper bounds on CFR. My second statement has the word 'likely' in it. W.r.t. Italy, I am talking about an Italian media article describing over-constrained hospitals and the provisioning of military field hospitals. Third statement has some evidence in other parts of the thread. Fourth statement: many, many experts are warning that we are doing too little to late. The need for a response is logical given the high R0, CFR and needed hospitalization. If needed, I can provide some links, but going to my next meeting right now.
- Loughla 7y ago
  HN is not wikipedia, correct. But there is a baseline for expectation, from what I can tell. If you're going to make claims of fact, especially for something controversial, you need to support with facts. That's your job as the person making the claim. Otherwise, you need to put a sentence in there that all of these things are just your opinion. And your response to me is just more hand-waving "i'm right i'm right" with zero content. You're still doing it.