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> it's much safer than other popular alternatives, such as texting, Facebook Messenger, Slack, iMessage, and, yes, Telegram. At least hear out what the Telegra
by est31 7y ago
> it's much safer than other popular alternatives, such as texting, Facebook Messenger, Slack, iMessage, and, yes, Telegram.
At least hear out what the Telegram devs have to say about this:
> WhatsApp aggressively pushes users to enable backups to third-party services by Apple and Google. Even if you don't backup your messages, it is extremely likely that your chat partners are doing so. It is likely that they don‘t even remember dismissing an annoying notification with a “yes” a long time ago. The interface provides no way of knowing whether or not your messages are being backed up. Meanwhile, for group chats of five members, there’s a 99% probability that all messages are stored on Apple‘s or Google’s servers in the US.
> As Product Manager Randall Sarafa put it, just one month after Google Drive backups were introduced to Whatsapp:
> “About 75% of Whatsapp users are on Android, and of our Android users, we have about 40% of them opted into Google Drive backups today. That will likely continue to increase over time, as people get prompted.”
https://telegra.ph/whatsapp-backdoor-01-16 https://telegra.ph/whatsapp-backdoor-01-16
So Whatsapp's usage of end to end encryption might not be as helpful as advertised.
I suggest you use Signal or Threema instead of apps like Whatsapp or Telegram. Both lack options to back up to the cloud.
- viraptor 7y ago> The interface provides no way of knowing whether or not your messages are being backed up. The interface is clear about it on your side: https://postimg.cc/gn3LxBNz https://postimg.cc/gn3LxBNz If you mean the other side, then the only valid assumption is: yes, the other side of conversation backs up your messages. This is unavoidable and for the general population having a backup is more important than the edge case where the backup is abused.