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> Grad students aren't even really workers "As part of its commitment to transparency and public accountability, each year the University of California publicl
by csb6 7y ago
> Grad students aren't even really workers
"As part of its commitment to transparency and public accountability, each year the University of California publicly reports employee pay data. The report covers UC's career faculty and staff employees, as well as part-time, temporary and student employees." [1]
I think the commonly accepted definition of worker is someone who is an employee and not a manager. Grad students are pretty clearly employees, according to the UC system.
[1] https://ucannualwage.ucop.edu/wage/ https://ucannualwage.ucop.edu/wage/
- dantheman 7y agoThey're not workers in the traditional sense. What are other workers get degrees for their work?
- michaericalribo 7y agoIf it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then for all intents and purposes, it is a duck. As a grad student, I taught 2 undergraduate courses a semester as the professor, the same load as a full faculty member—very much ‘workers in the traditional sense.’ Moreover, grad students are also writing a dissertation and doing research for their advisors and taking a full course load, and apparently in CA, also working a side job to pay their bills.
- jdm2212 7y agoGrad students teaching courses is, as with interns, a hybrid role that is both paid employment and professional training. And, as with interns, the pay is much lower than an experienced industry veteran's salary [1] because part of the compensation comes in the form of experience, connections and resume-building. [1] There are two exceptions to the rule that interns don't get paid much: professional services and engineering. Both fields use internships almost exclusively as a recruiting tool and don't claim to provide any educational value.